Air Canada had a massive sickout which resulted in countless flight cancellations. Thats what it took to wake up management.

Do that at a regional here, you will be fired and your union leaders sued and possibly jailed. The end result is that none of you will be going to a major with a record of civil disobedience.

Sigh, it was so peaceful while you weren't posting here...

That's not true. It can't necessarily be proven as an illegal job action. Unless of course everybody blabs about it online.

APA tried that in '99, it didn't work out too well. $45 million fine.

GF

United did a great job in 2000, that should be AA and AE next play.

Also to get our union leaders out since they wont hold meetings, all we have to do is sick out. Sounds good to me! Take this TG!!!!

They want to take pay/work rules that is fine. Cost them 10 times over, and run this place apart. I would rather take my chances with USAIR. We can cost them 10 times what they want by writing up EVERYTHING, using up our sick time, and doing what UAL did in 2000.

Per the FARs, you must write up EVERYTHING anyway. Sounds like you are admitting to violating FARs by carrying discrepancies instead of writing them up when first noticed, regardless of location or how it may inconvenience you.

As an FO I can not write up anything. Go troll somewhere else!

hahahahah you must be a gem

Technically you can't write up anything without the Captain's permission. That's the glory of him/her being PIC. Now if they don't write something up then that's another story. But I'm sure you understand not everything is black in white. If you get an intermittent status message that posts for 10 seconds and then disappears are you going to write that up? Some maintenance items come down to discretion.

At my major, any crewmember can write up anything at any time. Many times, when I was an F/E, I'd already be out at the jet before the front seaters showed and have numerous writeups in the logbook to tell the Captain about.

Maybe your regional doesn't trust F/Os to write up stuff unsupervised. That's probably a good policy at the regional level.

Great, we get it, you think YOU'RE better than us, now please go away.

At our major, we can't.

Gee, I didn't even go to college know the difference between your and you're. You must have skipped English class at Riddle and went out spotting the N numbers of the RJ's taking off and landing.

This is everything you need to know about czechairman:

You are talking about amr correct, or general mainline issue.
Beacuse amr will get 90 seat scope as DAL and LCC and UCAL with 75 seats has, it is the average and competitive as to what they will present to the bk judge.

Incase you don't know, this is everything you need to know about CzechAirman:

He is awesome.

He is super smart.

He started flying at a major from day one.

He works at a major that will never furlough and pays him in gold bullion.

He knows piloting abilities are directly related to pay, and since he is paid the most, he is therefore the best.

Everyone calls him to find out what trips he bid so they can try to fly with him.

He had to sell is Ferrari because it could not hold his ego.

He has so much time off that he has time to log onto an internet forum to post condescending posts to lowly regional pilots (who all suck since they are paid less than him).

And don’t forget he has a BIG watch but he is so modest that he does not bring it up in conversations and just talks about how awesome he is for picking the best company to work for.

Don't forget he bowls over-hand :D

Which major would that be?

Best comment in a long time. Very appropriate.
:D

Whoa!!! Awesome comeback!!!! Now go check my post history and please find just ONE other instance where I misused your or you're. Oh, and I didn't go to Riddle.

He's one of the UPS "management" pilots that was hired while they had guys on furlough. He regularly flies the line, so go to the cargo forum and ask what UPS guys think of him, it's a riot! He gets laughed out of there so he comes on here to talk down to lowly regional pilots so he can feel better about himself. Kind of like how high school kids would go to the middle school playground thinking everyone there would look up to them and think they're super cool, but in reality they couldn't stand them..

guys gona lose/loose there/their jobs and you have idiots worrying about spelling.

Hey? he was being one...

nothing is known yet for Eagle, guys may end up at AA in the end.

Quite frankly, I rather go overseas and or even street CA at Gojets before start first yr pay at AA.

If UAL & DAL have 70/76 seat scope relief, why would AA get 90 seat scope relief? Seems they could be competitive with 76 seaters. I don't think they'll get more then that.

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I would bet they would give you the option to be forever fenced on an RJ for 15 year pay minus 5% with a mutual work rules between AA/AE.

this place goes through moderators like a temp agency, what ever happened to that tony guy with the family guy pic.

Tony made a personal decision to leave.

is that why he was coming up as banned for awhile?

I tend to agree. One noteworthy aspect of the Eagle term sheet is the inclusion of rates for up to 76-seats and only arbitration if something larger should be flown. It also includes rates for larger turboprops. As such, it would seem they are confident of getting RJ's in the CRJ-700/900 and E-170/175 range to provide feed in the 64-76 mixed class range. The Q400 also seems to have a place. I would expect the above 5 aircraft to be the bulk of the replacement for AA feeders. Horton is open to merge with U, although it would appear he wants to do it after reorganization vs. Parker's before exiting. Regardless, it's then just then a matter of when, not if AA and U start canoodling. U mainline pilots fly E-190's I believe and thus when AA and U merge, it would seem to draw the line at 76-seats for the combined feed operation.

They also have Mesa flying 190s. Delta has 90 seat feed, USAIR has 90 seat feed, and UAL has near unlimited 70 seat feed. AA is miles behind the industry average.

I believe so.

Mesa doesn't fly ANY Embraer aircraft. Delta does NOT have 90 seat feed, nor does UsAir. Seats are restricted to 76 and 86 respectively.

86 mind as well be 90, i mean come on man. Also USAIR has a large amount of these 75/86 seater planes at the regional level. Someone posted this recently, in a graph. Also Delta has a limited amount of 86 seat jets but they have them at mainline. UAL has a boat ton of 70 seat jets allowed.

The same argument can be made with JetBlue and or Alaska! AMR has stated that they could see consolidation in the future but not necessarily with US Airways! PHL doesn't help with the issues AMR is facing in the NE, Delta is attacking AMR hard and fast, 7 flights were added between LGA/DFW this week I believe!

The smallest aircraft Delta operates is the DC9-50. It's configured to 125 seats in a 2 class configuration. Delta does not operate any 86 seat jets. The CRJ900's operated for UsAir with 86 seats are in a single class configuration. If AA wants to maintain a 2 class product in their larger RJ's, they'll be forced to fly the CRJ700 at around 66 seats and EMB175/CRJ900 at 76 seats.

UAL may have unlimited 70 seaters, but that is the seat limit....70. No one has scope that allows 90 seats. That's a fact. ;)

Code-shares with the above are a certainty and merges at some point with one or both within the realm of possibility. As for the RJ's, AMR will get hundreds of up to 76-seaters, but above that, a limited amount and hopfully none. Remember that for every one of those 76-seaters, means perhaps 10 less new-hire slots at AA. That means much slower attrition from the top at Eagle and if some of Eagle's flying is parted out, that's not good.

In reading the Eagle term sheet, it looks like a current 50-seat topped out E-145 captain will be flying the 76-seater for about the same pay......actually less, considering the guarantee is 5 hours less. The TS ensures those rates via limits till 2016 and then 2016 comparison to the lowest out there till 2020 will mean that snenior topped-out captain will make about $80K/year till 2020. By 2019, if you're lucky enough to be one of those captains, the equivelent earning power in 2012 dollars would be about $50-55K/year, i.e., that pay stays the same, while inflation and increased health care make you 5% poorer every year. If you're stagnated junior to that, well...............:confused:

That is the future in store for a large portion of hopful regional pilots at least on the AA and possibly AA/U side as more and more mainline flying is replaced by these aircraft. It's a fabulous deal for airline managers, but the end of a profession for pilots.