Airlines Lobbie the White House
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Airlines Lobbie the White House
For this of you that haven't seen this, please take a minute and read the presentation that the President of American Airlines, CEO of American Eagle used during his visit to the White House last fall as the 1,500 hr rule and the new rest rules where being evaluated by our current administration!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...10122011-1.pdf
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...10122011-1.pdf
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Joined APC: May 2011
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Seems pretty much in line with the typical management hissy fit "we're going to have to pay more to hire more to cover flying." That, in line with the low-timers complaining they NEED to get on at an airline with 500TT because their Riddle or ATP training has totally prepared them for the 121 cockpit.
The one group of people you see with a bit of sense in the argument is the higher time pilots who have actually been there, done that.
The one group of people you see with a bit of sense in the argument is the higher time pilots who have actually been there, done that.
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Joined APC: Oct 2011
Posts: 205
Seems pretty much in line with the typical management hissy fit "we're going to have to pay more to hire more to cover flying." That, in line with the low-timers complaining they NEED to get on at an airline with 500TT because their Riddle or ATP training has totally prepared them for the 121 cockpit.
The one group of people you see with a bit of sense in the argument is the higher time pilots who have actually been there, done that.
The one group of people you see with a bit of sense in the argument is the higher time pilots who have actually been there, done that.
Why are google and Facebook such great places to work? Because they compete hard to acquire skilled programmers and designers. The way of the future might be increasing the number of smaller planes, but I think the public would rather have well-paid and well-rested (and somewhat happy) pilots that the alternative.
The unions should start a public campaign - "Would you pay $3 more per ticket to have a well qualified, well rested pilot?"
#7
Bracing for Fallacies
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: In favor of good things, not in favor of bad things
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Isn't that old news given the NPRM that just came? Not trying to be mean. I do find it funny how bigh the numbers are that mgt qoutes as being necessary due to the rest rules. *If* the posts I have read on APC are correct, mgt will be able to tinker with numbers and schedules to need very little to NO more pilots. Scare tactics.
Also of note, I see some airlines minimums (regionals) are just starting to rise up to 135 minimums. What an interesting shift in the paradigm from the 90's....
Also of note, I see some airlines minimums (regionals) are just starting to rise up to 135 minimums. What an interesting shift in the paradigm from the 90's....
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 125
"Short Call Reserve - Time spend on short call reserve should not be included as part of duty, until the pilot is called and notified of his/her assignment"
That sounds fair and safe, wait at home all day from 6AM - 7:59PM and then get a call for a CDO, Highspeed, stand-up where you could technically fly all night until 8AM the next morning. That would be a 26 hour duty period. How can they argue this point with a straight face? Where is the Union's rebuttal presentation?
That sounds fair and safe, wait at home all day from 6AM - 7:59PM and then get a call for a CDO, Highspeed, stand-up where you could technically fly all night until 8AM the next morning. That would be a 26 hour duty period. How can they argue this point with a straight face? Where is the Union's rebuttal presentation?
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New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2011
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Not just a good article for pilots. The flying public needs to read this. Airlines always talk about safety first, but this article never mentions safety. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that airline management is only worried about the financial impact of these new safety rules.
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