I'd imagine that Woerth is gonna do the same thing he's always done - sit and wonder what's going on and how can he make more money and build political power. Of course, he'll be doing it from retirement (finally) - so a lot fewer pilots will have to suffer from his actions.

I would refrain from making comments like this on a public forum...............it got APA at American in Big Trouble and set a very bad legal precident for all of us since then.

Mesaba needs to go. Strike anyways, resign, leave, do whatever.

I know what you mean, but I'm not XJ, nor involved with their labor group in any way. Just stating what I would do...

I'm on board with that.

I think just about everyone would be ok w/ that...If we're all paying for a union that is supposed to bargain for us to get what we need to live, then its time for the union to make an ACTUAL stand. Or, maybe more of that ALPA money needs to be given to judges for payoffs the same way the other side is doing.

take every mesaba pilots dues and not give them to alpa, but put them in a trust fund for TW. Use that money that money set aside for bail, and see if he and ALPA are willing to go all the way for you. If he goes all the way, put your trust in him. If not, every man has to look out for his own family and self. It's a tough gamble at best. Leverage is lost, and the only way to get it back is to go totally unconventional. Either ALPA shows its balls and makes a stand for all the money it has collected in the name of protecting you for countless years, or the pilot group all hands in a resignation at once. It's all or none.

When i was in Bosnia way back when, a serb once told me, "when you and your brothers are backed into a corner, the only way out if to come out fighting together." Everyone has their reason for being there : PIC, family, steady job etc. They are all respectable. It's tough to say all or none because everyone has a life to live. I feel for everyone there. Just remember, nothing will change unless you change it. After this judge ruled, you will all have to change it, together.

[QUOTE=flynavyj;72594] its time for the union to make an ACTUAL stand. QUOTE]

Making an actual stand would be calling on all ALPA carriers to stand with us on this sham of a bankruptcy. It is time for ALPA national to take a stand and change the course of regional airline labor.

I am looking at my Gold 75 years of Pilots In Command sticker and see that it says STRONG-FOCUSED-SAFE.

Let's see the STRONG come in to play here.

I am so sick of this whole thing, God help any of you that find yourself working for a carrier in bankruptcy.