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The Juice 05-13-2012 02:00 AM



Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1187098)
The Pinnacle NMFC has been working hard to reduce that effect. I have never seen anywhere close to the failure rate that has been happening to the former XJ/9L's When the fail rate is over a third, something systemically is wrong.

What's NMFC?
Well that's the good ol North Mississippi Flying Club

Saabs 05-13-2012 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by IBPilot (Post 1187111)
Grow up...they aren't out to get you. Not their fault you can't fly a missed approach with a failed FMS (or just go straight out anyways just for the hell of it) or leave the flaps at 20 after a v1 cut and not even bringing them up on the climb check. Plus the fail rate is around 10%. where are you getting this 33%? Inflammatory crew room and internet gossip? Sure it might inflate to 30% for a class or two but it is nowhere near 33% overall. I suppose the Feds are in on this too since so many have not been signed off on their first or second fed rides?

No way I could fly a missed approach without an FMS. Is that even possible? I mean I would have to look at the plate right?

mooney 05-13-2012 02:57 AM

North ms flying club. However if you are XJ and like to inflate the failure rate and blame it on politics it can also be called the Gestapo, SS, the mafia, Chicago piano etc

mooney 05-13-2012 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1187156)
No way I could fly a missed approach without an FMS. Is that even possible? I mean I would have to look at the plate right?

That sort of missed has legendary status, usually only successfully completed by those with a $20k "intro to CRJ/Guaranteed interview course" :)

Bartok 05-13-2012 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1187157)
North ms flying club. However if you are XJ and like to inflate the failure rate and blame it on politics it can also be called the Gestapo, SS, the mafia, Chicago piano etc

I know exactly what to blame it on, amigo.

Saabs 05-13-2012 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1187159)
That sort of missed has legendary status, usually only successfully completed by those with a $20k "intro to CRJ/Guaranteed interview course" :)

Crap, better pay for one of those classes before I head to RJ class :D

MunkyButtr 05-13-2012 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1187197)
Crap, better pay for one of those classes before I head to RJ class :D

You should probably check your attitude at the door when you head to class. You have more worthless posts than shyguy. You are a troll only here to incite a riot.

mooney 05-13-2012 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1187164)
I know exactly what to blame it on, amigo.

You don't count. U can be my wingman anytime. Hell, Ill be yours!

Saabs 05-13-2012 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1187205)
You should probably check your attitude at the door when you head to class. You have more worthless posts than shyguy. You are a troll only here to incite a riot.

What attitude? I'm the one being told I'm not good enough to pass jet training. Big fancy FMS hard for me

Bartok 05-13-2012 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by mooney (Post 1187211)
You don't count. U can be my wingman anytime. Hell, Ill be yours!

Thanks, mooney.

And the Papa Smurf is one of the examples of what is right at 9E!

MunkyButtr 05-13-2012 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1187214)
What attitude? I'm the one being told I'm not good enough to pass jet training. Big fancy FMS hard for me

Has anyone come to you personally and said that? Have you been singled out? Grow up a bit.

ShyGuy 05-13-2012 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1187205)
You should probably check your attitude at the door when you head to class. You have more worthless posts than shyguy. You are a troll only here to incite a riot.

My posts aren't worthless. I call out things for what they are, and 90% of my predictions on 9E all came true. The only thing I was off on was the BK date being Jan 1 versus actual April 1. Other than that, everything else like the Saabs gone, Qs gone, and the -900s at ATL being gone came to be 100% true. You may not like what I post, but I call it like it is.

mooney 05-13-2012 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 1187217)
Thanks, mooney.

And the Papa Smurf is one of the examples of what is right at 9E!

Papa thank you, kimosabe

MunkyButtr 05-13-2012 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1187243)
My posts aren't worthless. I call out things for what they are, and 90% of my predictions on 9E all came true. The only thing I was off on was the BK date being Jan 1 versus actual April 1. Other than that, everything else like the Saabs gone, Qs gone, and the -900s at ATL being gone came to be 100% true. You may not like what I post, but I call it like it is.

Then I'll need your powerball numbers whenever you get a chance. ;)

ShyGuy 05-13-2012 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by MunkyButtr (Post 1187281)
Then I'll need your powerball numbers whenever you get a chance. ;)

LOL! If I could see it coming somehow, then yah I'd bet the right numbers and retire. Thing is, at 9E, you could have seen it coming. My post history shows all the signs I saw. Whether people liked it or not, but all the details, like merging our list with another airline that was parking its turboprop fleet. And things like no fence to protect from jumping across certificates befor a merged operation. We started to bleed lots of money, and it raised a red flag in my head. Then other things. Pay not being done on time. Too many errors in pay. Add the fact they fired all the ops people throughout the system. I've learned now what to look for in a systematic way, and what the warning signs are that the company is headed towards the BK route.


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