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MusicPilot 05-10-2012 11:07 AM

www.myRJETworkplace.com/
 
Hmmmm, is this to compete against RAHContractNow.org? Seems kind of fishy to me! Wonder how long this will take to turn into a FAPA versus IBT thread.

"The site reflects our commitment to keep you informed with open, honest, factual information.* It also reflects the fact that we are all in this together.* We are a team.* Issues affecting one workgroup can affect all of us, so it’s important for everyone to have access to timely and accurate industry and our own workplace-related information.*
*
To our union-represented employees, please be assured that we always will uphold the principles of good faith bargaining.* We will negotiate directly with the union representatives, respecting their role in the process.* We will not use this website as a tool to circumvent them or the process.* Consistent with federal labor laws, we will provide negotiation updates and other notices, relevant facts and data, correspondence, and answer your questions to the extent that is appropriate.
*
Thanks in advance for visiting My RJET Workplace, and thank you very much for everything you do to help make Republic Airways a proud leader in our industry."

ALTsel 05-10-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by MusicPilot (Post 1185679)
Hmmmm, is this to compete against RAHContractNow.org? Seems kind of fishy to me! Wonder how long this will take to turn into a FAPA versus IBT thread.

"The site reflects our commitment to keep you informed with open, honest, factual information.* It also reflects the fact that we are all in this together.* We are a team.* Issues affecting one workgroup can affect all of us, so it’s important for everyone to have access to timely and accurate industry and our own workplace-related information.*
*
To our union-represented employees, please be assured that we always will uphold the principles of good faith bargaining.* We will negotiate directly with the union representatives, respecting their role in the process.* We will not use this website as a tool to circumvent them or the process.* Consistent with federal labor laws, we will provide negotiation updates and other notices, relevant facts and data, correspondence, and answer your questions to the extent that is appropriate.
*
Thanks in advance for visiting My RJET Workplace, and thank you very much for everything you do to help make Republic Airways a proud leader in our industry."


Anything that is published by the managment and is stamped and signed by managemnt, really cant be considered factual... more like damage control...

sonnyray1 05-10-2012 01:35 PM

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Emb170man 05-10-2012 02:36 PM

"...to make Republic a leader in the industry" except in pilot wages, cause we don't want to pay you what you are worth. Heller=Hitler

wonkable 05-10-2012 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1185787)
"...to make Republic a leader in the industry" except in pilot wages, cause we don't want to pay you what you are worth. Heller=Hitler

Did you just Godwin yourself?

IA1125 05-10-2012 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by MusicPilot (Post 1185679)
Wonder how long this will take to turn into a FAPA versus IBT thread.

I don't see anything that would cause a Frontier pilot to be involved in this discussion, except to say, "Thank God, it's not us."

Is this yet another status quo violation or just blatant disregard for the Mediator's gag order? Or did the gag order not address this specific issue?

Good luck.

Wingtips 05-10-2012 04:53 PM

I wonder if Mitt Romneys company helped make the website.

LostInPA 05-10-2012 05:02 PM

This comes across as an amateurish response to the RAHcontractnow site. As an outsider, I am not impressed. These massed-produced 'management tells their side' sites that have been puked out by labor negotiation consultants with nauseating regularity. Quit 'telling' your people how good they have it......show them respect and pay them accordingly. Not asking for much here.

SD3Dog 05-10-2012 09:42 PM

This ^^^^^^

HotMamaPilot 05-10-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1185884)
I wonder if Mitt Romneys company helped make the website.

Regardless, I'm sure eric holder and the DOJ will be filing a lawsuit on monday.

Mulva 05-11-2012 09:32 AM

This is an intelligence quiz:

Hypothetical 2010 annual insurance premiums for a RAHBro were $11,000.00
Company paid $10,000.00
RAHBro paid $1,000.00

Same premium for 2011 rose to $13,000.00
Company pays $11,500.00
RAHBro pays $1,500.00

Who "absorbs major share of rising healthcare costs" here?

a) RAHBro
b) Company

Hint #1: Total increase is $2,000.00

Hint #2: RAHBro portion of increase is $500.00

Hint #3: Company portion of increase is $1,500.00

GoBlue 05-11-2012 09:46 AM

They are paying the contractually obligated 2/3 of the healthcare cost. So, while they may be absorbing "most" of the increase without passing it along to the pilots, they are not doing it out of the kindness of their heart!

Dougdrvr 05-11-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by LostInPA (Post 1185889)
This comes across as an amateurish response to the RAHcontractnow site. As an outsider, I am not impressed. These massed-produced 'management tells their side' sites that have been puked out by labor negotiation consultants with nauseating regularity. Quit 'telling' your people how good they have it......show them respect and pay them accordingly. Not asking for much here.

Look at the name on the bottom of their pay comparison charts. That should tell you all you need to know and strike terror in your heart at the same time. Hint: the company starts with an "S".

3662forlife 05-11-2012 10:23 AM

Hey Mulva since your computing numbers you might like this:


If a 7 year FO is getting a 14.7% pay increase I want at a minimum a 14.7% pay increase. I'm a ****ing 17 year captain. And I expect my union to get me this. This is a walkable incident.
I'm ****ed.
Seriously?

3662forlife 05-11-2012 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by GoBlue (Post 1186311)
They are paying the contractually obligated 2/3 of the healthcare cost. So, while they may be absorbing "most" of the increase without passing it along to the pilots, they are not doing it out of the kindness of their heart!

I bet he saw this somewhere


1) "Republic absorbs major share of rising healthcare costs"

Company's share from 2010-2012, $6,500-8,400.
Employee's share, $2,200-3,400.

That's a 29% increase for RAH and a 54% increase for us. Way to pick up the "major share" there, Republic!

airbill 05-11-2012 10:31 AM

Mulva, take a look at the real numbers:

http://www.myrjetworkplace.com/wp-co...care-Costs.pdf

Just sayin' ...

Mulva 05-11-2012 11:21 AM

If the "he" you are referring to is me, then yes I was. I find it intriguing how a generally level headed RAH pilot is attempting to spin the following as something other than what it simply is:

2010-2012 healthcare costs increased $3,100.00 of which the Company absorbed $1,900.00 and the remaining $1,200.00 went to the employee. Doesn't that suggest the Company absorbed over 62% of the increase? I would consider that a "major share." According to those numbers, the Company is picking up over 71% of the total tab (granted that has gone down a bit since 2010).

How about if the company were paying $9,999.99 of a $10K tab with the RAHBro sporting for the other $0.01? Let's say the overall goes to $11K with the RAHBro picking up $0.02 and the Company $10,999.98. Damn, the RAHBro sees a 100% increase while the company only sees a 10% increase. Where is the fairness there? Would is be fair at all to consider the Company picking up $999.99 vs. the RAHBro $0.01?

I guess you can look at it as a 100% increase to the RAHBro or a 99.999% "major share" increase to the Company.

Just kind of funny seeing efforts to refute a Company statement that, to 99% of the planet, makes absolute sense.

AND Airbill, thanks for the chart. Was kind of garbled up except for the actual colored bars, but no biggie. All I need to do is look at my pay stubs from the last few years to know that healthcare costs are eating into my direct deposit. The point I am making is that employers (including RAH) continue to pick up the lions share of the increase.

AND GoBlue, why the Company does so is beside the point.

Lab Rat 05-11-2012 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Emb170man (Post 1185787)
"...to make Republic a leader in the industry" except in pilot wages, cause we don't want to pay you what you are worth. Heller=Hitler

And how much are you worth? First, you are worth what you negotiate. Second, with no shortage of wannabes willing to fly jets for practically free, you cannot negotiate much. I'd say you are paid exactly what you are worth.

airbill 05-11-2012 02:00 PM

Mulva,

If it was garbled, then you'll have to ask the company why. It's from their newfangled website. :wink:

The only thing that chart proves is that the company has been gradually shifting, as a percentage share, more and more of the cost of health care to its employees. And you're right, it's going on all over the nation. RAH is not all that different from many other corporations. But, your examples notwithstanding, it puts the lie to the company's assertion that it isn't shifting more of the burden to its employees. And with most of our FOs frozen in salary seemingly in perpetuity, this is a very relevant charge.

This is the one I really like:


Job security: Our employees have benefitted from unparalleled job security and job growth since September 11, 2001. Because of teamwork and good decisions, Republic has avoided deep, long-lasting layoffs that have plagued other air carriers. Additionally, we’ve worked hard to avoid and minimize pilot furloughs. When furloughs have been necessary, we have been able to return pilots to work fairly quickly.
By my count, we have had four pilot furloughs in ten years. Pilots have been out of work up to two years. In some cases, the company fired out of seniority even though it knew it was illegal. This is blatant disregard for the truth, but par from the course from a company whose "guiding principles" contains this nugget: "Tell the truth." It would be funny if it weren't so tragic. These are the guys you're working for. I'm sorry if you trust them more than you trust us, but that's the way this has gone from the beginning.

And speaking of tragic, it sucks that we're at each other's throats when it shouldn't be this way. Our fight was, and always has been, with management that served notice that it wanted to toss our scope out of the window. What would you have done? Would you have been so complicit?

GoBlue 05-11-2012 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=Mulva;1186361

AND GoBlue, why the Company does so is beside the point.[/QUOTE]

I would disagree with you on that point. The company is implying that they are picking up the lion's share of the cost in order to not give anyone a pay cut. Since I have not gotten any sort of pay raise in over two years and my health insurance cost about 250 dollars more a month, I would say that I have received a pay cut. It is typical Republic speak, they aren't exactly lying, but they aren't telling the truth either.

I know, the company tried to "give" me a raise out of the goodness of their heart. However, I would like my raise as a part of a new contract, not an underhanded attempt to string out the negotiating process even further.

The company just wants to give us honest information. Maybe they are, unfortunately, after 5+ years of being lied to, I don't have the heart, nor the mindset to listen to them anymore.

Just my thoughts.


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