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Originally Posted by flynavyj
(Post 73885)
seems highly doubtful that raising the costs (not significally) would give us less pilots. The factories are charging incredible amounts of money, and if we already have 80k to blow on aviation, then what's another 5-10k?
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Correction
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 74134)
Bull$hit and Bull$hit again. These numbers are NEVER down. This myth about depleted pools and such is just that, a myth. This field is flooded and will always be. Or are you actually an All ATP recruiter?:D
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Korupilot "Fixing our problem"
There are a number of posts attempting to fix the undercut of the industry. It appears all would work with varying degrees of effectiveness.
1. Fix the longevity scales (I think "hate2breakit2u" has this one) 2. Get paid for your time (see thread pilot pay supply & demand) 3. Require an ATP for FO's at any 121 operation 4. Alpa to pay more attention to the bottom instead of the top (The problem here is dues $$$) 5. Change public perception of the "overpaid pilot" 6. Finally the "Don't work for xxxxxx airline rants" (probably the least effective in the long run) The answer is yes we can fix our problem. The question is.... do we as a pilot group want to?:confused: |
Originally Posted by Ski Patrol
(Post 74683)
4. Alpa to pay more attention to the bottom instead of the top (The problem here is dues $$$)
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Originally Posted by Ski Patrol
(Post 74675)
Wanna bet look at the $hit regional jobs. Sure the numbers are never down for the (current :Dand I stress current) good companies. But there are plenty of slots open at the regionals due to attrition etc. I can't speak for grounded but It looks like he's speaking of the regional kind IE Mess-a.
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Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot
(Post 74700)
applying for a key bank loan at all ATP:mad:
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Originally Posted by Ski Patrol
(Post 74683)
There are a number of posts attempting to fix the undercut of the industry. It appears all would work with varying degrees of effectiveness.
1. Fix the longevity scales (I think "hate2breakit2u" has this one) 2. Get paid for your time (see thread pilot pay supply & demand) 3. Require an ATP for FO's at any 121 operation 4. Alpa to pay more attention to the bottom instead of the top (The problem here is dues $$$) 5. Change public perception of the "overpaid pilot" 6. Finally the "Don't work for xxxxxx airline rants" (probably the least effective in the long run) The answer is yes we can fix our problem. The question is.... do we as a pilot group want to?:confused: So...How to begin? The 1st step (iding the problem) has been done... -LAFF |
Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer
(Post 74715)
So...How to begin? The 1st step (finding the problem) has been done...
-LAFF
Originally Posted by HotMamaPilot;
they will never NOT be able to fill those positions. As we speak, some youngin' has already read this "pilot shortage" post and is already applying for a key bank loan at all ATP:mad:
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Originally Posted by fosters
(Post 74703)
FYI it's just "ATP", not "All ATP". No all.
Used to be "All ATP's" IIRC |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 74725)
Used to be "All ATP's" IIRC
It's actually "Airline Transport Professionals, Inc.". |
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