TSA policy for screening crew out of uniform
05-19-2012, 05:09 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by flyou11
I've had this exact issue in both MSP and MEM. Both times I already had a boarding pass in my pocket and I didn't feel like argueing so I showed it to them. I emailed my JS coordinator (or security coordinator don't remember which). He told me each airport has their own policy. I like to argue that we should be allowed through with only a crew badge.
Wouldn't it be nice of the KCM was nationwide already? Can we commute (in uniform) and use that system? I don't see why we couldn't. The only rules I have found is 1. crew member in uniform 2. crew badge 3. 2nd form of id.
Wouldn't it be nice of the KCM was nationwide already? Can we commute (in uniform) and use that system? I don't see why we couldn't. The only rules I have found is 1. crew member in uniform 2. crew badge 3. 2nd form of id.
05-22-2012, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by seahawker01
It is national policy that a TSA approved crew id will allow access to any checkpoint IAW standard screening procedures. Simply demand the supervisor call the TSOC to confirm this. there are many reasons for this and the jumpseat community has fought hard for this. hold them to it.
05-22-2012, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by drrhythm2
Where is that in writing? I doubt the awful guy I tried to convince last week would believe me unless I can show him proof, and I don't trust the "supervisor" to be any better informed.
05-22-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by drrhythm2
Where is that in writing? I doubt the awful guy I tried to convince last week would believe me unless I can show him proof, and I don't trust the "supervisor" to be any better informed.
Sadly, it's in their super-secret manual that you're not allowed to even know about. One of them got angry with me when I quoted it to them at DFW. (When they tried pulling the same crap.) Someone on here in a thread a long time ago posted the chapter/paragraph #s.
05-22-2012, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
Sadly, it's in their super-secret manual that you're not allowed to even know about. One of them got angry with me when I quoted it to them at DFW. (When they tried pulling the same crap.) Someone on here in a thread a long time ago posted the chapter/paragraph #s.
Acceptable IDs include:
- U.S. passport
- U.S. passport card
- DHS "Trusted Traveler" cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
- U.S. Military ID (active duty or retired military and their dependents, and DOD civilians)
- Permanent Resident Card
- Border Crossing Card
- DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
- Drivers Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
- A Native American Tribal Photo ID
- An airline or airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security plan)
- A foreign government-issued passport
- Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card
- Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
05-22-2012, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by skywatch
TSA: ID Requirements for Airport Checkpoints
Acceptable IDs include:
Acceptable IDs include:
- U.S. passport
- U.S. passport card
- DHS "Trusted Traveler" cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST)
- U.S. Military ID (active duty or retired military and their dependents, and DOD civilians)
- Permanent Resident Card
- Border Crossing Card
- DHS-designated enhanced driver's license
- Drivers Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
- A Native American Tribal Photo ID
- An airline or airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security plan)
- A foreign government-issued passport
- Canadian provincial driver's license or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) card
- Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)
05-22-2012, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by drrhythm2
Where is that in writing? I doubt the awful guy I tried to convince last week would believe me unless I can show him proof, and I don't trust the "supervisor" to be any better informed.
05-22-2012, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by drrhythm2
Well that's an acceptable ID but flashing your Driver's License won't get you through security without a boarding pass at a lot of places. We need something saying you can go through out of uniform with an airline ID.
Finally found the post I remembered reading on here. This is a quote from that post. (Ie: not my words, so don't blame me if referencing this gets you sent to guantanamo)
"November 1st 2007 admendment to section 4.3.1.b.1 of the AOSSP"
05-23-2012, 03:07 AM
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I was talking to one of our newly minted VA pilots that was trying to get through security in MEM. He was just coming to 9E ops to turn in some stuff so he obviously wasn't in uniform. The TSA screeners did not believe that Virgin was a real airline (I guess only real airlines fly to MEM). They hassled him for a while then made him go get a gate pass from a ticket counter. Even with a gate pass in hand they still gave him a very hard time about really being a pilot for a real airline. Took him like 20 mins total before they finally let him through...
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