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STILL GROUNDED 10-29-2006 02:24 PM

Skywest days off?
 
I have not been able to find anything about days off at Skywest, do you get some?

Our fearless leader hear at Mesa has said on the hotline that Republic and Skywest are our biggest competition. I tend to agree. I would be interested in trying to understand why then our quality of life has to suffer so greatly to compete with companies that really don't pay that differently. We are really only talking about a couple of thousand a year, not that big in the whole scheme of things. But there is always a steady stream of employees leaving here to go to either carrier. WHY?

I want to think proper staffing, better than 8.6 days off on reserve, no JA because of poor planning and in-adequate staffing.

Anybody wroking there have thoughts?

I'll save all you sharp guys from typing the the easy answer. I know it's two initials, J.O.!

bla bla bla 10-29-2006 02:50 PM

Last month I got 10 days off, I average about 12 a month off on the rj. I am a line holder with just about 3 years seinority.
Things are shady here at skyw to. Most dont seem to care, they seem happy just to get by. I think most plan on the quick upgrade, and to forget about everone but themselves.

Whats your job worth? I say strike and put them out of business. Is i really worth what you are getting paid? And no days off?
The answer is j.o. will feed you full of any thing you will bite on to lower his costs.

So you can cut more costs, i.e. labor and make your job more worthless, or you can push for a better lifestyle and possibly put them out of business.

rickair7777 10-29-2006 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by bla bla bla (Post 74543)
Last month I got 10 days off, I average about 12 a month off on the rj. I am a line holder with just about 3 years seinority.
Things are shady here at skyw to. Most dont seem to care, they seem happy just to get by. I think most plan on the quick upgrade, and to forget about everone but themselves.

Whats your job worth? I say strike and put them out of business. Is i really worth what you are getting paid? And no days off?
The answer is j.o. will feed you full of any thing you will bite on to lower his costs.

So you can cut more costs, i.e. labor and make your job more worthless, or you can push for a better lifestyle and possibly put them out of business.


You're a 3 year FO with 12 days off? Or a captain?

AirWillie 10-29-2006 03:28 PM

Sorry if I'm wrong but since mesa has 13bid periods doesn't that mean they get more days off in a month than 12 bid places since days off are per bid period not per month?

rickair7777 10-29-2006 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 74553)
Sorry if I'm wrong but since mesa has 13bid periods doesn't that mean they get more days off in a month than 12 bid places since days off are per bid period not per month?

They get 8/10 reserve/line per bid, which is about 8.7/10.8 per month.

Burt Reynolds 10-30-2006 01:15 PM

I'm new at SkyWest (RJ/FO) and so far I've done one month of reserve. Next month I have a line w/ 14 days off including Thanksgiving and the day after that... And I'll credit about 88hrs. I'm not sure what you're doing to only get 10 off...

bla bla bla 10-30-2006 04:07 PM

Yeah I shoud have bid reserve.

JustAMushroom 10-31-2006 04:35 AM

Min days off for RESERVE is 10 days off. Line holders have NO min days off!!! In January 2003 there were some lines in Fresno with 9 days off. (They say they try not to do this)

In denver 1 and 1/2 year FO's can bid Aspen flying and get 17-19 days off a month. Or Fly typical line and get 12-16 days off.

MESA brother..remember this..whatever JO says, we are not your competition. Most guys don't care about growth for growths sake...even tho they tell all the new hires "You will all be RJ captains in 1 year if we keep cost down" implying we will be flying into Mexico, D.C. JFK..etc....

No one really believes them...it's just another way mgmnt. keeps us fighting eachother. You guys need to fight for a good contract, and we will do the same. Keep your eyes on the prize and don't let JO or Jerry distract us!

Hayduke 11-01-2006 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED (Post 74537)
I have not been able to find anything about days off at Skywest, do you get some?

A few. I finished IOE beginning of October, have a line in SLC with 19 days off next month (will credit only 75hrs though).


I would be interested in trying to understand why then our quality of life has to suffer so greatly to compete with companies that really don't pay that differently. We are really only talking about a couple of thousand a year, not that big in the whole scheme of things. But there is always a steady stream of employees leaving here to go to either carrier. WHY?
Whoa...
2nd year CRJ FO pay based on guarantee at Mesa: 19,152
2nd year CRJ FO pay based on guarantee at SkyWest: 31,500
(and these don't take the .45/hr difference in per diem)

They "don't really pay that differently"? Huh? 12,500/year isn't really that different? And upgrade times are basically identical right now. So the question is why you guys are being made to suffer so greatly when the competition is paying a lot better...my uninformed guess would be that it's the pay and QOL that's causing the Mesa-->SkyWest exodus.

CFIse 11-04-2006 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Hayduke (Post 75564)
Whoa...
2nd year CRJ FO pay based on guarantee at Mesa: 19,152
2nd year CRJ FO pay based on guarantee at SkyWest: 31,500
(and these don't take the .45/hr difference in per diem)

Silly person - forgot to change those calculator batteries when we fell back last month? Or perchance did you choose to forget Mesa has 13 bids per year?


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