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Sanchez 11-07-2006 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by crjav8er (Post 78066)
Who cares. Airplanes are basically the same; go for pay, upgrade time, and QOL.

This is kind of mentallity is the reason why some folks end up at BlowJets. I do agree that you should pick the path that gets you were you want to be the quickest, but don't sell your soul in the process. Be picky, you owe it to yourself.

As far as actual equipment life style is concerned, well, my only experience is in the Jet, and I enjoy only doing 2 or 3 legs a day, as well as, the international destinations. I don't know what the life on the prop is like, but I'm pretty happy with the Jet.

flyguyniner11 11-07-2006 03:59 PM

i'm not sure about the 2 or 3 year upgrade though a friend of mine at commutair is being upgraded now and hes been there for a little over a year and its much faster than xjt or comair which i hear can be 4-5 yrs

Sanchez 11-07-2006 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 78118)
i'm not sure about the 2 or 3 year upgrade though a friend of mine at commutair is being upgraded now and hes been there for a little over a year and its much faster than xjt or comair which i hear can be 4-5 yrs

I hear commutair is a good outfit, and they do have quick upgrades. Here at XJT is anybody's guess...currently 2 years, but subject to change pending a few announcements....we'll see. Either way this is an awesome place to work at.

fosters 11-07-2006 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by flyguyniner11 (Post 78118)
i'm not sure about the 2 or 3 year upgrade though a friend of mine at commutair is being upgraded now and hes been there for a little over a year and its much faster than xjt or comair which i hear can be 4-5 yrs

Yes, it is faster NOW because of the new Dash's. Did you know they were "rumored" to get cabin class planes 15 YEARS AGO!! It took 15 years for it to happen.

What am I getting at? That stuff could change tomorrow. The company was EXTREMELY close to being in bankruptcy court do to default on airport fees it owed several counties prior to getting the financing available to get the Dash's.

I'm glad he upgraded that quick. 12 months ago the upgrade was over 3 years. 12 months later it's 12 months. 12 months after that = ??

I guess what I'm saying is you are taking a gample by chasing upgrade times. You could end up a 3 year FO making $18/hr. You could also end up a 2 year captain making almost double that. Roll the dice..... :D

crjav8er 11-07-2006 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 78114)
This is kind of mentallity is the reason why some folks end up at BlowJets. I do agree that you should pick the path that gets you were you want to be the quickest, but don't sell your soul in the process. Be picky, you owe it to yourself.

As far as actual equipment life style is concerned, well, my only experience is in the Jet, and I enjoy only doing 2 or 3 legs a day, as well as, the international destinations. I don't know what the life on the prop is like, but I'm pretty happy with the Jet.

Hold on there boss, you seem to have misunderstood the gist of my post. SJS is one of the reasons people go to crappy regionals. Instead of worrying about the type of airplane you fly, just look to work for a good company that will not treat you like scum. Some great airlines have tons of turboprops.

JoeyMeatballs 11-07-2006 04:33 PM

Look when I was at Colgan very very few ever left for the big boys. The females always seemed to go places, but other than that we had like 1 go to JB, maybe one or two to SWA and like maybe one or two to CAL. PIC is great but letys face it not as valuable in a Turbo-prop, not saying you cant get there from T-Prop but slightly more challenging, and dont forget that the QOL at a place like COlgan is def not the greatest, and not to burst your bubble but flyng VOR to VOR is not really the kind of experience majors are looking for nowadays, but hey if you have a connection go to where you can get your 1,000 or 1,300 if ya wanna fly for SW

I WILL SAY THIS ( If I could do it all over agian I would probably still go to Colgan for a little while the SAAB & turbo-prop experience is priceless, and a blast glad I did it. I would say go to Colgan for like 3 months to get the T-prop lifestyle then jump but they will whack you for the contract ;)

Fluboy340 11-07-2006 05:03 PM

saabarooswki. If you think that the type of flying we do isn't what the majors are looking for, than you know nothing. We lost 8 people last month to majors. 2 Cal, 2 SWA, 2 FEDEX, 1 UPS, 1 JBLU. Sure sounds like the majors like to type of pilots, and the experiance they are getting over here. Dont get me wrong, the ERJ is great. You got more stuff in there. I am looking foward to all that in the future in a widebody,not a RJ. The experiance here is great, and its the most fun you can have 121. Dont say we are only good for 3 months. To many kids flying a RJ, walking with there heads so hi, there in the clouds. Just remember. Doing less is not allways better..

Past V1 11-07-2006 05:08 PM

Thinking of coming to Colgan
 
Hey Fluboy...I'm thinking of coming to Colgan...are they hiring into the 340 or the 1900? Or do you have a choice? Just wondering...

KiloAlpha 11-07-2006 05:18 PM

Hiring into both aircraft.

If you perform well during your interview and sim eval, Chuck will most likely give you a choice of aircraft.

JoeyMeatballs 11-07-2006 05:32 PM

Keep telling yourself that Kilo oh and by the way we are losing like 20 a month to CAL alone :). Kilo I felt the sameway you did. Slowly (you have not been there long enough) The MEL'd airplanes the crew schedulers hacking up your schedule, the not getting paid even after you fill out your stupid paysheets and the flying in and out of the the same airports gets really really old. I know you are excited becuase this is ytour first airline job, but believe me, you too will get sick of the way Colgan runs their operation. Have you had the oppertunity to talk to Tom Brink and have him ask you if what the Captain wrote up was "really" broken? Look 8 legs a day is great and flying "through" the weather is alot of fun and builds some great experience, but when you have recruiters from Airtran, aka Valuejet tell you that unless you have Turbojet time and have delt with complex systems, FMS's and been to more than a few places they really are not interested in Turbo-prop guys, sorry but its a fact. Next time you go fly ask Your Captain who probably has more than 1,000PIC and has his app out everywhere why he is still there? Have fun in 252CJ, last time I flew it, it had 9 MEL's :)


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