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B00sted 11-16-2012 03:37 PM

Pinnacles 1113 Motion is unsealed...
 
And the verdict is.....DENIED

Docket Search

Its number 801

captain152 11-16-2012 03:41 PM

Maybe I can't read, but where are you seeing that it was denied?

B00sted 11-16-2012 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by captain152 (Post 1294306)
Maybe I can't read, but where are you seeing that it was denied?

The part that says "Accordingly, Pinnacle’s motion is denied without prejudice. If the parties cannot reach agreement with the assistance of the Court’s analysis of the issues as set forth in this Decision,4 Pinnacle can file another motion based on a revised proposal."

captain152 11-16-2012 03:50 PM

Is that in a document in that link somewhere? Having trouble doing much with my handy iPhone here! Haha!

Great news though!!

B00sted 11-16-2012 03:55 PM

Just read the union email. Its out now.

PinnacleFO 11-16-2012 03:57 PM

So pinnacle can change some things and then refile hopefully we can just get a ta before then because the judge said they were close. I wonder how delta reacts to this ? Good news for now fingers crossed for the future

andreas500 11-16-2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by B00sted (Post 1294307)
The part that says "Accordingly, Pinnacle’s motion is denied without prejudice. If the parties cannot reach agreement with the assistance of the Court’s analysis of the issues as set forth in this Decision,4 Pinnacle can file another motion based on a revised proposal."

You should also note however that this decision is "without prejudice" - meaning they can file a modified 1113, and it is stated in the finding that if they do so, and address the concerns of the court, the modified filing will almost certainly be granted.

B00sted 11-16-2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by andreas500 (Post 1294332)
You should also note however that this decision is "without prejudice" - meaning they can file a modified 1113, and it is stated in the finding that if they do so, and address the concerns of the court, the modified filing will almost certainly be granted.

WOW. Read the quote aloud one more time for us. Does it not state exactly that?

Avroman 11-16-2012 06:38 PM

Well, Delta's race to the bottom is forced to take a 20 second time out.... Meanwhile they are changing over their outstations from the previously 2nd round of outsourcing of Regional Elite to the 3rd round (and associated continued pay/benefit cuts) to DGS and it's already showing in the product. I really hope I don't run out of popcorn waiting for the country to wake up and have a backlash to all the outsourcing (loss of middle class)
P.S. good luck finding motivated people in Buffalo at $8 per hour to work the station.... I know a new city to put on the no bid list.

N2Core 11-16-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 1294402)
Well, Delta's race to the bottom is forced to take a 20 second time out.... Meanwhile they are changing over their outstations from the previously 2nd round of outsourcing of Regional Elite to the 3rd round (and associated continued pay/benefit cuts) to DGS and it's already showing in the product. I really hope I don't run out of popcorn waiting for the country to wake up and have a backlash to all the outsourcing (loss of middle class)
P.S. good luck finding motivated people in Buffalo at $8 per hour to work the station.... I know a new city to put on the no bid list.

Almost broke the DOT rule for being on the ramp too long in DSM after landing because of this. Only had 2 ground people working for 4 flights within 45 minutes. Had to have more help come over from executive or millionaire or whatever the FBO is there. Unbelievable and disgraceful.


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