Flica Backdoor Closed Now???
 

Usually by this time of the month, Captains (ASA that is) are able to see their skeds by changing the number in the url address on your previous months award. Now it looks like they have shut that down. I know I'm not the only one who can't see it anymore. What gives?? Why the heck would they make it where you can't see it anymore? I wanna know if I got friggen Christmas off. Guess I gotta wait another 3 days to find out. Alright, venting over.

J...it is a programming glitch with Flica...not the company. We are not able to pull up any previous monthly awards. Flica is working on it, but said they do not know when it will be fixed.

Insufficient privileges comes up for all the months under "view your award." Guess you'll have to wait.

man, that sounds terrible. Guess you'll have to wait until the afternoon of the 20th like all the friggen -200 FOs. ;)

Sounds like the company gave it to those captains in the backdoor by closing their backdoor.

Something about back-door and WHERE WAS I?!

You can view the alpa pbs prelims. I have been looking at my prelim for the last 3 days. The link is in an email sent last week i think.

Those prelims are worthless. It shows me with weekends off, Christmas off, 76 hours of credit with 19 days off. Highly doubt my actual award resembles anything like that.

Look at the update time on the Prelim website...

ALPA prelims do not take unstacking into consideration. They are useless unless your the number one guy selecting individual pairings. Managament changes the paramiters and voids out anything ALPA thought they would use.

Sucks for Flica's boyfriend.

Yep, your PBS sounds GREAT.... Prelims? Pfft... I had my schedule last week...

I sent an email to FLica and got this response:


There was an error on our end causing you not to be able to view your bid award. This issue should now be resolved. If you are still getting this message, it is probably because your page is cached. Meaning, it is bringing up the page from your previous log in. To fix this, you will need to log out of your account and delete your cookies, cache, and history on your browser.

If using Internet Explorer- Click Tools-Click Internet Options-General-Browsing History-Delete-Cookies, Cache- History- Ok.

If you are using an iPad/iPhone- Tap Settings-Safari-Clear Cookies and Data- Clear History.

Once you have cleared the cookies, cache, and history: Log back into your FLiCA account and try to view the award again. If you are still experiencing an issue viewing your award; please give us a call or email me back with a screen shot of the error.

This error was not due to our PBS, and the timing of our awards are a contract issue, not a software issue.

Previous awards are visible. Backdoor still blocked.

Guess they "fixed the glitch" permanently now and I will have to wait till the 20th like all the other peons to see my sked for next month. Lame.

It's probably one or two people that ruined it for the whole pilot group. Complained to mgmt about it.

Whaaaaa! Whaaaa!

On the Lxjt side we usually get out lines within the first 10 days of the month. Just one more reason to vote down any TA put in front of us with PBS in it. Oh yeah FUPM! All you ASAers better get onboard. The pilot shortage is a myth, majors are modifying scope to allow larger RJs, face it guys we might be here for a lot longer than any of us wanted.


Please remember to vote on this new contract AS IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE REST OF YOUR CAREER.

Ps. FUPM no PBS!

53,000 flight hours cut in 2013 on the EMB side. FUPM.

It's sad that you say that with pride your arrogance is unbelievable. I understand that you are very senior. If I may refresh your memory, it wasnt very long ago that ASA wasn't looking so hot. This industry goes round and round, unfortunately that motion is all of us collectively spinning 'round the toilet as our careers get flushed down the drain. Today it's us, tomorrow it may be you. Glass house....

Until the doors shut on this place FUPM. I'm tired of working for peanuts.

XSive, for what it's worth, my interpretation of what occurred between you and Tony was that you have a militant opinion that the L-ASA side needs to bow to, an Tony was pointing out that block hours are down on the L-XJT side so we need to figure out how to get together on this for both sides, so go stuff your militancy. I don't know either of you, nor am I taking sides, just my interpretation if what occurred.

By the way, the issue with publishing schedules on the L-ASA side is contractural, not a function of PBS in and of itself. Most people here actually like PBS, although we can't stand how long it takes to publish schedules.

Sorry to burst your bubble and let facts get in the way of your "I hate PBS" circle jerk.....but PBS HAS NOTHING to do with ASA getting their schedules on the date we do. It's caused by how and when Delta has historically given the flying to us to build the trips. The rest is just the way the contract is written. it can be NEGOTIATED to change if we so desired, with or without PBS.

Now, continue..........

Its not about being militant. Its about demanding what we deserve. We have been under a concesionary contract now for quite sometime. Even so, our contract is superior to most other regionals. Our pay rates have not kept up with inflation for too long, ever since ASA management took over our QOL has generally decreased. My problem is that it seems that far too many ASA guys are happy with their current situation. I want us all to achieve a better contract, not just for those at the top like Captain Tony, but from year one to the top of the scale. The scenery is changing daily we have to protect everyone including the most junior guys. Maybe you guys just don't understand because your current contract was an improvement to what you had prior. Not us, we knew what is was like to have better pay, awesome work rules and great QOL. We just want those days back. With pay that can support my family..you understand what I mean? Like I said in an earlier post, we have to vote on this contract as if we wre going to have to work the rest of our careers under it.

Oh? So if everyone hates the fact that your schedules are issued so late, why hasn't anything been done about it?

We are in negotiations now. It will change with the next contract.

While it may not be 'about being militant', you sure appear to come off that way. You say it's about demanding what you deserve. Ok. Based on what? Unfortunately, that demand is subjective based on the point of view of 4500ish pilots, and this isn't a democracy, it is a business. Please keep in mind that things will never be like they were. I'm not being argumentative, nor am I picking sides, it's just a fact. Too many things are different from how they were to ever go back. For instance, 'how things were' was based on a contract with Continental, which no longer exists, and the UA folks aren't going to do things the same way Continental did. There is no going back.

Yes, we could be here for a career. Yes, we all want that to be a good
place to be, but we won't be able to really work toward making this a better place until the divisiveness and animosity are gone, or at least reduced to a dull roar. Let's work together for a realistic contract that works for all involved. It will be better for all of us that way.

We got our schedules AT THE SAME TIME when we had your treasured line bidding! It is because Delta delivers the flying to our crew planning nearly the same time that you get your schedules. It didn't change when we got PBS. So I say again, it has NOTHING to do with PBS! That said, there are some changes that we could negotiate in a jcba. The bid runs could go quicker, results published sooner, and the reserves should not have to wait so long. But it still is NOT because of pbs, so get over that!

Well said. I think part of the reason the old Coex pilots have this view of the world is that they were accustomed to operating in a different climate than exists now for them - and everyone. They "grew up" in aviation as the sole coex carrier, with a different contract with their partner than they have now. There never was competition for them, and they never competed or bid for flying. Their profit margin was probably 10%, not the less than 1% that Majors have forced on their Regional partners. They are unable to shift from this dichotomy and view their world as different now. Do I want - and think I should get - paid much better than I do? Absolutely! But I understand that this is how the business works. Costs are squeezed to the bone now. New companies are formed to undercut those already on a contract and seniority list. ACA, Feedumb, Allegheny, Mesaba, Colgon and Comair are gone. AirWisn shifted from UAL to USAIR. Mesa has shrunk. Pinnacle is about to shrink. This isn't the same regional industry and many of the L-XJT pilots cant or refuse to see this. You can't demand to price your company out of business, and that it's managements problem to figure out how afford to pay it. The Coex days are gone, and the era of "competing for contracts is here - unfortunately.

Correct.

Were those concessions imposed in bankruptcy, or did your pilot group willingly vote them in?

If you hate your job this much, please do us all a favor and quit.

Oh, one more thing, i've been here 12 years. Hardly super senior, but "old enough" to know you're just another "entitled" junior pilot who thinks the world owes him a favor. Get over yourself. You're entitled to nothing.

What he said. Duh.

That was a flamboyantly ignorant post.

Our bid doesn't close until COB on the 14th. It's hard to get your line "within the first 10 days of the month" when you're still bidding half way through the month.

Yes, the bidding timeline sucks, but the bid hasn't closed until the 14th for as long as I've been around, PBS or not.

When do you get done with your six day integration?

Sorry, I'm not junior, no sense of entitlement either. Wrong on both accounts. I'm just someone that understands that if we all dont collectively fight for OUR profession, management will continue to chip away at our salaries, our benefits and our QOL. That's my big issue with all this. It's almost like you guys are content with status quo. Obviously I'm not expecting the company to price themselves out of the market, but when I see the ridiculous corporate waste ie.acey day, the film series, a video of how to put my flight bag in the airplane, the hiring of consulting agency to come up with SureJet ect...I mean come on. We all deserve better..

So enlighten me. How many years have you got in this industry?