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UCLAbruins 11-21-2012 07:27 AM

Better question yet

(If you don't mind me asking), why are you looking at the regionals to begin with? you've put in your time, you're past the "regional job" stage.

With your experience you should be looking at some flight departments that operate long-range bizjets.

Going from the right seat of a 747 to the right seat of a G-V, Global Express or 7X should be a level move. And if its a good flight department, you might choose to stay when/if they call back,

my 2 cents

RunnerMark 11-21-2012 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by UCLAbruins (Post 1296744)
Better question yet

(If you don't mind me asking), why are you looking at the regionals to begin with? you've put in your time, you're past the "regional job" stage.

With your experience you should be looking at some flight departments that operate long-range bizjets.

Going from the right seat of a 747 to the right seat of a G-V, Global Express or 7X should be a level move. And if its a good flight department, you might choose to stay when/if they call back,

my 2 cents

Are you serious? Do you really think that corporate flight departments with GV's are just going to pay for a $60,000 - $80,000 type rating for someone simply because they have int'l time? Do you have any idea what the current job market is like?

As much as many of us would like to think we are passed the regional job, the fact is that they may be the only viable option. I am a furloughed 747-400 FO, I have been a Captain at a regional, and have no big negatives on my file. I have applied to over 20 positions ranging from corporate, every major, single engine props, and regionals. I have received all of THREE replies. One regional, and two propeller jobs, none of which pay over $30k. THAT IS THE REALITY. :eek:

CANAM 11-21-2012 12:35 PM

Don't worry. I heard there's a shortage coming. That's what the kids paying $150,000+ at ERAU are being told.

rickair7777 11-21-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Flatspin (Post 1296730)
Why would you tell them you are on furlough instead of saying you simply left? This moronic question pops up here weekly. First of all, there is no way for a future employer HR department to get more info other than employment dates and in aviation, safety related records. Second of all, it blows my mind the one-way courtesy which flows from pilots to regional airlines.

1) They will ask why you left. If you lie and they find out, you'll get fired. They will find out because...
2) A quick check of CASS will show if you're currently employed.
3) PRIA is mandatory...that will show employment dates including termination date when furloughed.
4) Your date of hire will be a strong hint that you might be furloughed. You could post on APC asking how deep furloughs go at any given company and someone would tell you within ten minutes. Any recruiter talks to lots of pilots from many companies and has a pretty good who is furloughed and who is not.

I don't think you can hide furlough status. Trying to would be a very bad idea.

rocketman3746 11-21-2012 01:27 PM

Cape Air is always hiring. For some, Cape Air is the first step in their career, for some, it's where they go to "retire", and for some, it's just a port in the storm. There are plenty of pilots here that are furloughed from other carriers and are waiting to go back. You don't need to resign your number to fly here, and even better, you always retain your longevity for pay purposes, not matter how many times you come and go....

Std Deviation 11-21-2012 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by UCLAbruins (Post 1296744)
Going from the right seat of a 747 to the right seat of a G-V, Global Express or 7X should be a level move. And if its a good flight department, you might choose to stay when/if they call back,

my 2 cents

Not so easy. I'm at a 142 organization and from what I'm currently seeing those jobs are going to guys with type ratings and 500+ PIC in those aircraft. Aviation director at a Fortune 5 (five) company that I personally know (outside of aviation) advised they got 200+ "qualified" (see above) resumes in a 7 day period. Gone are the days of a handshake and a wink from the chief pilot.

LeftWing 11-21-2012 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Flatspin (Post 1296730)
Why would you tell them you are on furlough instead of saying you simply left? This moronic question pops up here weekly. First of all, there is no way for a future employer HR department to get more info other than employment dates and in aviation, safety related records. Second of all, it blows my mind the one-way courtesy which flows from pilots to regional airlines.

Well, let's see; Perhaps he wanted to tell the truth? :eek:

It is conceivable that when asked, a CP, ACP or HR would verify employment with a mention that such and such was furloughed on ____. Then where would you be?

In getting any job, it is always better to be truthful.

Moronic comments pops up here weekly too.:rolleyes:

RunnerMark 11-21-2012 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by LeftWing (Post 1297028)

Moronic comments pops up here weekly too.:rolleyes:

Haha... try hourly. :D

proletariatav8r 11-21-2012 04:45 PM

Always tell the truth in an interview. And don't underestimate the connections that HR folks have at the various airlines. Just like pilots, HR people tend to clan together, even from different airlines and compare notes. During those job fairs we all love, where do you think the recruiters go at the end of the evening? They find a bar that the pilots won’t be at, then commiserate and laugh at some of the clowns who approached their table wearing something stupid, saying something stupid, or have their resume printed with subtle, soft clouds in the background, or on their business cards.

I'm guessing you can't go to a major right now because most aren’t hiring, that was a joke by the way, or you don't have enough PIC turbine. With your heavy, international time, getting some of that will increase the chance of your application getting pulled out of the computer based filter systems they all use now. And going to a regional where you will fly a heavy, 7 leg, 121 schedule as a crew is valuable time. The price you have to pay to do so though is dear. You better have money saved, a second income, live at home, a significant other with a great job, or all of the above to make it work. Good luck.

pitch mode 11-23-2012 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by RunnerMark (Post 1296812)
Are you serious? Do you really think that corporate flight departments with GV's are just going to pay for a $60,000 - $80,000 type rating for someone simply because they have int'l time? Do you have any idea what the current job market is like?

As much as many of us would like to think we are passed the regional job, the fact is that they may be the only viable option. I am a furloughed 747-400 FO, I have been a Captain at a regional, and have no big negatives on my file. I have applied to over 20 positions ranging from corporate, every major, single engine props, and regionals. I have received all of THREE replies. One regional, and two propeller jobs, none of which pay over $30k. THAT IS THE REALITY. :eek:

EXACTLY. All the climbto350 openings are "must be typed and current with 500 PIC in type". Apperently there are type rated 7X drivers on the streets. I have seen KAL post for 777 FO openings for those with 1000+ 757/767 time on Rishworth or VOR Holdings. Good luck.


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