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crewdawg 11-25-2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1298729)
I'm not afraid of work...are you?

Nope. I just work to live, not live to work.

fullflank 11-25-2012 04:18 PM

We are not going to see the type of hiring we did 5 years ago prior to the law changing. Airlines have merged; CAL, NWA, AT, no longer exist thus leaving less jobs out their to create movement. Retirements will occur but will be used as a means to deal with overstaffing, DAL and SWA mainly. Real movement won't begin for a few more years and that's assuming the retirement age doesn't go up again, I think it will but that's just me.

Vertisch 11-25-2012 04:27 PM

I, like everyone else, hated the five year seat lock, but in this current discrimination free enviroment why is it that we allow age discrimination to continue...?

SayAgain 11-25-2012 06:07 PM

Just happy the date is finally approaching and maybe some of this stagnation ends, and I'm not too old to go somewhere else. Guestimating that starting from the 13th of Dec to the end of 2013 there will be about 1,000 retirements from the legacies and UPS/Fedex, which is over 2 a day. Just a guess though.

Used2BeFlyer 11-25-2012 06:25 PM

Many years ago, back in the UK, I went to a union-organized pension seminar.

The speaker there said one needed to live for 14 years after retirement just to get back what one had paid into the pension fund.

As I don't expect to be around at 79 (hell, I'll be lucky if I make it to 74), I left as soon as I could. I was happy to give up my seat to a younger man (or woman).

jimchi 11-25-2012 11:49 PM

12/13 is my birthday!

pause 11-25-2012 11:53 PM

Giggity. However, I feel the major airlines will just reduce capacity. I don't think it'll really make a difference. Here's hoping I'm wrong. Cheers

Hacker15e 11-26-2012 02:53 AM

Just think how ****ed you would be if they pushed the retirement age back forward to 60, and everyone missed out on those extra 5 years earning at the top of the wage scale?

Iowa Farm Boy 11-26-2012 03:30 AM

Well no matter who feels that they should have been sitting in those left seats the last five years, it's almost over for both. Some guys are looking at well earned retirements and others are looking at well earned upgrades. All of are looking at (hopefully) the end of The Lost Decade.

Hopefully you've kept your family, your assets, and your liver and are looking forward to a Merry Christmas and a wonderful coming year.

jc23 11-26-2012 01:36 PM

I wish we could concentrate on how to fix an industry in which a 20 yr Captain that gets furloughed at company X doesn't have to start over at company Y. IMHO we seem to be focused on the micro issues while the macro issues seem to escape us.


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