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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1300756)
I believe that began in the November A380 bid pack.
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Originally Posted by fatsopilot
(Post 1300744)
I don't understand how this would be that hard to figure out.
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I agree with the Memphis sucks part... Place is booty !!! Ok sure there are some nice places , however few and far between !!! Good luck to the FDX commuters
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1300735)
FDX deadheads thousands of pilots out of MEM on Delta to start their trips in a different city (on FDX dime not a commuter/nonrev thing). Having to go thru ATL or another hub eats up lots of their duty time and they can no longer fly on DL AND do their FDX trip the same day. So FDX pays them for another duty day/hotel etc. Its gotten so bad that FDX have been deadheading crews on their corporate lears.
Originally Posted by fatsopilot
(Post 1300744)
A company that employees 200,000 people and is based out of Memphis isn't going to care when the airline providing major air service to the city pulls out? Of course they care, it isn't just pilots that travel. I don't understand how this would be that hard to figure out.
If the companies based in MEM can't fill a plane (profitably), then their employees need to connect like everyone else, or they need to sign a contract with the airline to subsidize the service like other small markets do. Otherwise, the companies have the choice to boost their corporate flight department or relocate. This isn't a communist country. Either way, it's not the airlines' problem. They answer to their own shareholders. As for FDX... too stinking bad. DAL has a booming cargo business, and they're probably enjoying turning the screws on FDX. |
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
(Post 1300750)
Really, what bid pack is that in?
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1300770)
So Delta is supposed to continue service on low demand, unprofitable routes simply so Fed Ex doesn't have to 2 leg crew members? Maybe Fed Ex should just start chartering airplanes, unless they want to cover the losses on the routes.
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1301269)
You've got to be kidding me. are the airlines in business to subsidize local business? And each other's crews? Is this a government funded thing now?
If the companies based in MEM can't fill a plane (profitably), then their employees need to connect like everyone else, or they need to sign a contract with the airline to subsidize the service like other small markets do. Otherwise, the companies have the choice to boost their corporate flight department or relocate. This isn't a communist country. Either way, it's not the airlines' problem. They answer to their own shareholders. As for FDX... too stinking bad. DAL has a booming cargo business, and they're probably enjoying turning the screws on FDX. you all realize all I did was state a fact right? not that I'm defending or sympathizing with them? or do you just like to come on here and preach to the choir? |
Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1301449)
you all realize all I did was state a fact right? not that I'm defending or sympathizing with them? or do you just like to come on here and preach to the choir?
nevermind... not worth my effort. |
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1301463)
nevermind... not worth my effort.
go ahead Tony you usually bash my posts whenever you respond to them why stop now? |
Originally Posted by Captain Tony
(Post 1301269)
You've got to be kidding me. are the airlines in business to subsidize local business? And each other's crews? Is this a government funded thing now?
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1300770)
So Delta is supposed to continue service on low demand, unprofitable routes simply so Fed Ex doesn't have to 2 leg crew members?
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^^^^^^^ this thanks Fatso.
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1301443)
straight from 2 friends and a relative that work there, thank's for trolling though.
The company can not build our bid pack this way so you are incorrect. The Lear can be used once the month has stated to position a crew if needed and it has always been done that way. In no way is the Delta loss of flights a reason for Lear flights. |
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
(Post 1302601)
You are welcome for trolling, but you are still wrong so pack up your crayons and stop coloring. You don't even work here so shut your pie hole.
The company can not build our bid pack this way so you are incorrect. The Lear can be used once the month has stated to position a crew if needed and it has always been done that way. In no way is the Delta loss of flights a reason for Lear flights. |
Originally Posted by fatsopilot
(Post 1301468)
No, they shouldn't if it isn't making them money. No one said they should. If they made promises written or unwritten they should honor those promises however. Other than that this is still a free country. You two clearly read too much into our posts. Overreact much?
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1301449)
you all realize all I did was state a fact right? not that I'm defending or sympathizing with them? or do you just like to come on here and preach to the choir?
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
(Post 1302601)
You are welcome for trolling, but you are still wrong so pack up your crayons and stop coloring. You don't even work here so shut your pie hole.
The company can not build our bid pack this way so you are incorrect. The Lear can be used once the month has stated to position a crew if needed and it has always been done that way. In no way is the Delta loss of flights a reason for Lear flights. You're right....I completely make up stories/lies and post them here solely so someone like you, who obviously is a greater pilot and more mature than I am since I'm still using crayons, can come on here and bash what I said which I heard firsthand. It really gives me a thrill :rolleyes: And who said anything about a bid pack? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1299956)
lots of local businesses are ****ed at DL....and FDX isn't very happy.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1302616)
Do you have documentation to prove that Fed Ex is "****ed" @ Delta? I haven't seen any facts yet. ;)
It should come as no surprise that people who want and were accustomed to one-way service are upset about turning a 2 hour trip into a 5 hour one with a layover in ATL. I shouldn't have to explain that to anyone except a few pilots I guess... * for the sensitive types that read way too far into posts, I am not defending those companies or bashing Delta :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1302631)
When Delta begins their next CEO search, make sure you float your resume. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1302616)
Do you have documentation to prove that Fed Ex is "****ed" @ Delta? I haven't seen any facts yet. ;)
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1302616)
Do you have documentation to prove that Fed Ex is "****ed" @ Delta? I haven't seen any facts yet. ;)
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1302646)
careful.....some MOD's might give you an infraction for quoting a "disguised bad word." :D
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That's it, johnso's getting it. I'M TELLING!!!!
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 1302656)
Don't worry Johnso29, if another mod wants to give you an infraction, I'll take the heat :D
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1302603)
so someone hears this straight from 3 Fedex pilots and this is the classy response you come up with? Glad your attitude isn't present in the other 98% of Fedex pilots I have met/given a ride to work. Lemme guess....777? ;) How do you know it was for "building into the bid pack?" What if someone calls in sick and the only way to get a replacement in a timely manner is by Lear since you can't take a Delta flight? to or from MEM?
Glad you are impressed by my class and attitude.:D I responded to a statement by someone that doesn't even work here and he continues to spout of about what is happening at a company he doesn't even work for. He also seems to be knowledgeable of the other top companies that are located in Memphis. Maybe he knows when I sohoud by and sell gold too or when the 767 bid will be out. Then again maybe not, I will ask the bus drivers they talk to many more FedEx pilots so they must really know what is going on. I never disputed the Lears are used to move crews. They have been doing that for years. It is not due to Delta cuts to Memphis. |
Originally Posted by USMCFDX
(Post 1303466)
He also seems to be knowledgeable of the other top companies that are located in Memphis. Maybe he knows when I sohoud by and sell gold too or when the 767 bid will be out. Then again maybe not, I will ask the bus drivers they talk to many more FedEx pilots so they must really know what is going on.
proof? Congressman calls for federal investigation on Delta Airlines in Memphis (WMC-TV) - Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen is calling for a federal investigation into unfair practices by Delta Airlines in Memphis - as an edgy ad campaign hits the Internet. The ad campaign takes flight as everyday people and business travelers alike take stock of the hurting Delta's putting on their wallet. "Companies used to care about the cities they served. Delta doesn't care about Memphis," said Congressman Steve Cohen. Cohen said the RunwayRobbery ads shows Memphis' frustration with rising prices and fewer flights, after Delta took over Northwest Airlines. He said the Airport Authority needs to get its priorities straight. "Delta is not a Memphian. Delta's a customer," said Cohen. ----------- Here's the full link. The story has links to the internet campaign mentioned. http://www.wmctv.com/story/20241582/con ... in-memphis Now everyone be sure to ask me rhetorical questions about topics I didn't even mention such as "why do I think Delta should hurt their bottom line to help them?" etc.... |
Well, other airlines sure seem to be jumping on the what has been voided by DL, don't they IB?
Cohen.... Cohen.... that name sounds familiar. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1304201)
Well, other airlines sure seem to be jumping on the what has been voided by DL, don't they IB?
Cohen.... Cohen.... that name sounds familiar. |
Hold on, what right or what grounds does a congressman get to dictate how a publicly held company can or should run their business? Is he on their board of directors?
Hey, I think Delta should have a hub in PIT, but guess what, it doesn't and won't. After the merger, it's only logical that some current bases at both Delta and Northwest would shrink. You can't keep all open. It's more efficient to consolidate and close up in certain bases, especially ones so close to each other. CVG is almost gone, DTW increased in size. MEM almost gone, ATL increased. Tell that congressman to lower the landing fees, gate fees, etc. to attract other LCC airlines into MEM. |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1304232)
why are you asking me? Did posting an article somehow state my feelings for or against? Do we need a hug for all the sensitive types that think every post is something negative directed towards them? :D
It was directed at those crying about losing business and having to pay more, and you were directly stating it in your post (in addition to the article). The void that DL is leaving in MEM is not being backfilled by anyone. The demand just isn't there. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1304241)
Lol wut?
It was directed at those crying about losing business and having to pay more, and you were directly stating it in your post (in addition to the article). The void that DL is leaving in MEM is not being backfilled by anyone. The demand just isn't there. The reason I asked you was because, 98% of the time someone on this board asks a rhetorical question towards a post that has a news article in it, they think that the poster shares the feelings of the news article or is defending it for some reason.....I've gotten PM's before asking me why I feel that way for simply posting an article, which is odd. If I post an article about Bama someone will email me accusing me of hating Stanford or some crap like that. I think I need another beer :) |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1304244)
exactly...I stated it, I did not say I agree with them. I just thought it was odd that USMCFDX called the other guy an idiot and didn't believe him for saying the same thing this article says, which is why I posted it.
The reason I asked you was because, 98% of the time someone on this board asks a rhetorical question towards a post that has a news article in it, they think that the poster shares the feelings of the news article or is defending it for some reason..... |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1304258)
My quick response was poorly worded, so I'll take the blame there. :)
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Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1304261)
want to join me for the beer? :) I actually thought at first you did it on purpose just cause of my last sentence that said don't as me any rhetorical questions since it's not my view :)
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[QUOTE=ShyGuy;1304240]Hold on, what right or what grounds does a congressman get to dictate how a publicly held company can or should run their business? Is he on their board of directors?
If you look at what party he belongs to it can answer your question. |
Originally Posted by IBPilot
(Post 1304244)
exactly...I stated it, I did not say I agree with them. I just thought it was odd that USMCFDX called the other guy an idiot and didn't believe him for saying the same thing this article says, which is why I posted it.
Again they have always used the Lear and our own planes to DH crews when operationally necessary. |
Why would FDX be upset?
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