Colgan: The Real Deal
 

well the two guys i know that are there love it, i think if u go in with the mentality that your not gonna make a career there and its just a stepping stone then your fine, thats that kinda attitude i'm going to have, i'm applying there soon

:rolleyes: I am glad I went there, great experience, great airplane, great guys, BUT SENIORITY IS EVERYTHING. (IF YA ARENT GONNA STAY THEN DON'T GO)

I couldn't agree more Lindy...... if you want to go to another regional and fly a jet... wait a few months and the opportunity will come. If you want to fly for Colgan... go and stay. A lateral move in a year is NOT what you want to do. Especially because you go back to the bottom of the pile. A lot of risks associated with that in addition to it being a huge pain man.

Good luck on the decision!

correct me if im wrong, but with around 1000 TT will colgan hire you with around 50 Multi? If they will then the advantage I see to it would be to go there for a year and get some 121 turbine multi time then make the lateral move to a better regional. Other than that its off to the 135 world to bulid that extra multi time there, then apply to the regionals. Either way I have to try and avoid spending the extra 5K on multi time.

Pencilwhip baby

What does that mean?

It means to fake hours in a logbook. Don't do it. Earn it and you'll sleep better at night.

-LAFF

yeah sleep better without a job, while the guy that whipped his time has your regional job ahhaah, nah don't whip

You know i was playing somewhat naive, my gut said thats what he meant.

It comes down to this little thing called integrity, and yes LAFF sleeping comfortably at night. Seniority is everything bla bla bla, ill wait the extra few months or year to know that when i sit down at an interview i can be confident to know that book is completely legit!

if you cannot to a top regional now (wiskey, rep, xjt, skywest), than i would say go get that turboprop experience. at colgan you'll fly a lot of hours, get a great experience, and you will get raped by scheduling, which will help you appreciate a lot more your next job!

the only way you should attempt this is to get 121 experience and say that you will leave at the end of the first year.

if i could be where i am now...NO i would not do it over again

i love where i am now, so i used colgan to get here

If you intend to make a career at a regional, do not go to Colgan. As was previously mentioned, you would hate to spend a year at Colgan and then have to start all over at the bottom of the seniority list at a different airline. If you want to get a pretty quick upgrade and build PIC time, Colgan is a pretty good choice. Good crews, fun and challenging flying. If you really want to get on with another regional that requires higher times, just continue flight instructing and apply when you have the hours.

Hey Livinthedream28,

Did you get a chance to do your interview this past Monday?

yes i did and I was just offered a position...i want out of instructing bad but don't want to make the wrong decison for my future. Just wanted to get the colgan guys "bottom line" opinion.

i just applied there yesterday how long does it take to get an interview?

i was called around 1 week after applying. They are close to filling up the November class and are starting to hire for the January class.

did you interview at lga?

Congratulations on the job offer! Probably feels good to have something on the table other than instructing.

i would consider going there just because other top regionals prefer 121 experience. obbviously, if you can get few more hours instructing, and have somebosy walk your stuff at one of those places, i would rather do so. congrats for the job offer!

Yea Lindy, do the year at Colgan so when I upgrade you can come to this airline and be my FO :)

What you are advocating is not illegal (as long as the 8710 isn't falsified), but it is most certainly unethical.

Its kinda funny when people ***** and complain about bottomfeeder airlines, crappy management decisions, poor pay, etc and yet they themselves have lied through their teeth to "get their foot in the door".

Thats pretty much how politicians and CEO's get thier jobs isnt it?:D

Sabb, you talk about alot of stuff, and put others down, yet now it looks like you have "faked" some time. Nice. I hope someone knows who this clown is, and CHECKS and VERIFIES his logs before his intial ride tomorrow!
Back to the subject. I got hired on at Colgan back in '99. First 121 to offer me a job (Eagle did, then didn't...long story). So I went with the attitude that I go, work, build time get out.
Upgraded in 6 months, checkairman 6 months later, Saab type 12 months...
So in two years, I had two types, over 1000 PIC turbine, and checkairman experience. Got on with Spirit. (9-11 happened, so I got stuck here for a little.) Waiting on SWA decision, and then trying CAL.
Go and build time if it's the only one offering. IT IS better than instructing.
Other factors: commutin wasn't that easy, so I didn't. Days off wasn't a big thing. MORE TIME!
If you have to wait for upgrade, who cares. Get some 121 turbine experience, if you hate it there, get out after the contract, and re-apply to someone else. The same wait if you stay instructing, yet you are getting 121 time.

Being employed at Colgan is like being a boat owner. The 2 happiest days are the day you "buy" Colgan and the day you "sell" Colgan. Happy Trails!

[QUOTE=BoilerUP;80792]What you are advocating is not illegal (as long as the 8710 isn't falsified), but it is most certainly unethical.QUOTE]

I know of a Boilermaker (no names) who whipped it to get a job at Express and ended up at UAL. Had one logbook for the interview and another for the Feds.

Im sure everyon has rubbed the numbers a little in the logbooks, but keeping 2 seperate logbooks? Thats just plain wrong. Too bad all the other people that applied the same time he did didn't find out who he or she was.

Go get out of instructing there are a lot of guys that have moved on to bigger and better things from Colgan. And not lateral move regionals. You won't rack multi turbine time up anywhere quicker that Colgan or Airmidwest. Its a prop but your "building time" right?

SHORTBUS your an idiot, It was a joke................loser

Saab I don't think it was a joke... You went on to defend your pencil whipping statement later in the thread. I've seen you put Mesa and GoJet guys down for sleeping at night with a job, and how unethical they are for what they've done to get their careers started.. Now here you are advocating pencil whipping hours to get a job... I can understand a .1 or .2 here and there for some taxi times (covered in the FARs), but telling someone to falsify 50 hrs of multi time to get a job is just wrong. How many backs are you stepping on to get ahead of the line when you do that?

On another note: This forum should be about the industry and professionalism... You seem to represent something other than that in many of your posts. I'm sure you're a good guy, but you seem to lower the bar when you lash out at other members calling them "idiots" and "losers". There are more tactful ways to get your point across. If we should end up flying together one day, I hope you show up to work with more than you demonstrate here....... Loser

ok well know that you know what I look like if you see me in the terminal be sure to come up and say hello, Ill buy you a beer.

P.S. Don't some of you guys think you take some posts just a little too seriously, you guys must be a WHOLE LOTTA FUN TO FLY WITH:p

That's the NJ way of threatening you. Nice. You really show your maturity on these boards Saab.:rolleyes:
You have to come up wtih something better than a response like idiot, or loser. How about "poopy-pants", or something like that?:D
Anyway, Rutger's must be proud of you, and the you're (no it's your) use of grammar, syntex, spelling.
I think you are the one taking the boards seriously. Lighten up Francis.
Now get back to preparing for the ride today!