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XSive 12-13-2012 09:00 AM

Happy age 65 day!
 
Well to be honest I can't remember if it was today or yesterday, but I sure am glad these 5 yrs are gone! Hopefully we can get our careers back on some kind of better track. THE REGIONALS SUCK! I can't wait to get out!

SayAgain 12-13-2012 09:36 AM

Today! Been a loonng five years. Looking forward to easing this stagnation we've all had!

Red97Vette 12-13-2012 10:52 AM

Finally.... 5 years gone. Hopefully no more of those shenanigans

Avroman 12-13-2012 11:05 AM

In other news, all majors have announced the parking of all planes over 12 years old and being replaced with double size and half frequency. No change to national capacity expected.... No hiring planned for at least another 5 years.... :rolleyes:

Flying Ninja 12-14-2012 06:01 AM

Does this mean the "pilot shortage" is finally here? ;-)

cactipilot 12-14-2012 10:19 AM

Ha- sounds like it! I hope everyone has enough Cessna 152 time, since that's all that you'll need coming up, right? (be sure to circle the airfields with the hood on to build that great instrument scan though, please people)

buddies8 12-14-2012 10:30 AM

your logic escapes me regarding the 5 years are here. not that you will have a large exodus, but the trickle that would have happened 5 years earlier.
Most mainlines will start to replace small narrow body aircraft with larger narrow body. Capacity stays the same, frequency drops. Same amount of passengers at half the pilot requirement. Same thing that is happening at regionals. Replacing as many 50 or less seat jets with larger 70-76 seat jets. Same capacity for passengers at half the pilot requirement.

if this was not true, mainlines would have started to hire larger amount of pilots rather than for just retirement replacement. stagnation will be upon us in 3 years again.

just a thought.

cactipilot 12-14-2012 10:37 AM

I had a hypothesis a while ago that a high percentage of 60+'ers would start losing their medicals before even reaching 65 thus mitigating the (however slight) trickle the 65 rule caused 5 years ago- anybody seen it happen from personal experience on the line? (diabetes, blood pressure, etc)

Moby Dick 12-14-2012 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by cactipilot (Post 1311781)
I had a hypothesis a while ago that a high percentage of 60+'ers would start losing their medicals before even reaching 65 thus mitigating the (however slight) trickle the 65 rule caused 5 years ago- anybody seen it happen from personal experience on the line? (diabetes, blood pressure, etc)

At our place exactly ONE post 60 pilot had medical problems. During that time TWO of my classmates, both under 55 were grounded for medical issues.

Iowa Farm Boy 12-14-2012 06:07 PM

I asked the ALPA Drs. this fall if they had noticed a surge in medical issues as the aging progressed and they said "no." Basically if most people made it to 60, they were probably going to make it to 65

Moby Dick 12-14-2012 08:08 PM

67 next. Oh my...

cactipilot 12-14-2012 10:09 PM

If that happens, it is all on you....

sigep_nm 12-14-2012 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy (Post 1311979)
I asked the ALPA Drs. this fall if they had noticed a surge in medical issues as the aging progressed and they said "no." Basically if most people made it to 60, they were probably going to make it to 65

That is because cognitive skills are not tested on a medical only blood pressure, pulse and your ability to turn your head and cough

cactipilot 12-15-2012 09:34 AM

And when your AME is 75 and has to pay the rent.........

200Driver 12-15-2012 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by cactipilot (Post 1312310)
And when your AME is 75 and has to pay the rent.........

Yeah I agree, love the people who argue age discrimination. Are you kidding? Medical's come out of cereal boxes. If you want to fly till your 75, great no problem here but actually prove you can!

Moby Dick 12-16-2012 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by 200Driver (Post 1312691)
Yeah I agree, love the people who argue age discrimination. Are you kidding? Medical's come out of cereal boxes. If you want to fly till your 75, great no problem here but actually prove you can!

The only problem with increasing medical certification standard is that there are many YOUNGER pilots who wouldn't qualify as well. Do you really want to roll those dice?

I'll stick with what the FAA requires. If the minimum wasn't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum.

200Driver 12-16-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Moby Dick (Post 1312805)
The only problem with increasing medical certification standard is that there are many YOUNGER pilots who wouldn't qualify as well. Do you really want to roll those dice?

I'll stick with what the FAA requires. If the minimum wasn't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum.

I agree with you. I think the current medical standards and retirement age are sufficient. How can you justify raising the retirement age without significantly raising the medical standards for that group? I have spoken with many people in the 60-70 year old age bracket, many in / retired from aviation, and most if not all agree the age 65 rule should be the limit.

block30 12-16-2012 11:51 AM

Besides the rumor mill, where is the evidence that 'Age 65' is being upped? So far, I haven't seen anything. :confused: ???

BenS 12-16-2012 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1312967)
Besides the rumor mill, where is the evidence that 'Age 65' is being upped? So far, I haven't seen anything. :confused: ???

Wait. Are you looking for facts in a forum :confused: ???

TBucket 12-16-2012 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1312967)
Besides the rumor mill, where is the evidence that 'Age 65' is being upped? So far, I haven't seen anything. :confused: ???


I've heard they're moving to "as old as you can pass a medical". But only for gojet pilots.


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