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Old 12-21-2012, 08:52 PM
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Here is a scenario for you. I am a mid level captain. I will be downgraded to fo. I don't plan on taking leave so I will have to wait until I can hold captain again (probably sometime in 2015 or 2016) and then I am frozen for one year after upgrading so I'm looking at 2017 or 2018 before I even would have a chance at the interview
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO View Post
Here is a scenario for you. I am a mid level captain. I will be downgraded to fo. I don't plan on taking leave so I will have to wait until I can hold captain again (probably sometime in 2015 or 2016) and then I am frozen for one year after upgrading so I'm looking at 2017 or 2018 before I even would have a chance at the interview
Yeah I'm in the same boat as you. Looks like a possible no vote from me. Sorry guys.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO View Post
Here is a scenario for you. I am a mid level captain. I will be downgraded to fo. I don't plan on taking leave so I will have to wait until I can hold captain again (probably sometime in 2015 or 2016) and then I am frozen for one year after upgrading so I'm looking at 2017 or 2018 before I even would have a chance at the interview
Yep, sounds like a heck of a deal. For me that means being a reserve fo at the ripe old age of 55. I think I'll pass.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:59 PM
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:36 PM
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I think the downgraded CA will be upgraded long enough to outlast freeze based on rate of attrition unless alot of CA don't actually qualify or want to go to Delta.

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Old 12-21-2012, 11:07 PM
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Questions for mid level pilots to ponder.

How many guys at Pinnacle don't meet Delta's criteria? College degree? Training failures? Arrest records? DWI's?

How many flows are left from Mesaba? 75 I think ?

How many senior guys are going to go for the SSP at Delta?

How many pilots will pass up the chance the first time around?

I think this SSP bridge program is much better than a flow.

I'll take my money now (6000) and keep updating my logbook over the next year and hope someone else like United calls, but also have the reassurance that I have a guaranteed interview at Delta some time in the future.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:08 PM
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2017 is a contract abroad, the question is How do you stack with an interview at DAL with regional experience, vs. having international wide body experience during the same time period? Not withstanding the income difference! Don't know, it is a tough call, I'm glad not to have that plastic carrot dangling in front of me
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pinchanickled View Post
Northwest is a different animal than Delta.

Delta actually values customer service.

Pinnacle is viewed among Delta with great disgust.

The Delta pilots see a bunch of hatless, backpack-wearing, immature, inexperienced kids with loosened up ties, punked out grapheti all over their flight bags, showing up to the plane at the last second, making poor decisions enroute, who can't talk on the radio professionally, clogging up the airwaves in our nations biggest airports, lowering the ontime statistics and completion factor, and bringing shame to the Delta brand.

And, the passengers agree! People HATE riding on RJ's.


For anyone of you who think voting for this TA will give you a flow through to Delta, you need to lay off the pot, crack, cocaine and heroin. Ever since 9-11, regional pukes have been taking over jobs at the majors. Delta STILL has pilots on furlough TODAY! From the top seniority to the bottom seniority, all of the NWA and DAL pilots were effected in some negative way. During the regional boom in the early 2000's ALL these pilots were either furloughed, displaced, demoted to first officer, demoted to a lower paying plane or reduced in overall percentage seniority. They have NOT forgotten. They HATE Pinnacle pilots and it is clearly evident when you jumpseat with them. Mentioning who you work for to them, is a conversation stopper. It's as if you told them you have Aids, Hepatitus, and HIV, they are disgusted and want to take a step back. On the surface most seem to shake your hand and be professional, but it's sooo obvious that deep down inside, you are viewed as the enemy.

Their is still an enormous grudge that the major pilots have. Keep in mind, the majority of them worked for decades to get there. They flew in the military, or gained a great level of experience as civilians. They don't want scumbag pilots (in their view) getting a free ride at a legacy carrier when all they have ever done is get hired at the second worst airline in the worlds history (Mesa being the first).

This flow through will never happen, no matter what is in writing, at least not to a group of pilots who were slated as taking over their jobs at a fraction of the cost. They want blood, and this time they will get it.
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Dude. Please relax. Get off the boards. Take time to collect your thoughts. Make the right choice.

-Remember, Delta is NWA because Richard Anderson is running Delta.
-Most Delta Pilots do not look down or dislike Pinnacle pilots. Please get that mentality out of your head. These thoughts are not good and eventually will lead you to a bad scenario.
-Times are difficult at Pncl. Collect your thoughts and do not become a victim. Take control, be positive and be extremely diligent.
-I want all good hearted, professional, hardworking and qualified Pncle pilots on BOARD at Delta. Do not let negativity let venom seep out of you. Avoid the boards for awhile.

It will work out in the end.

TEN
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
Pinch,

Avoid the boards for awhile.

It will work out in the end.

TEN
Yea, your right. It's just so hard to stay positive when your losing your job and right now Mesa isn't even hiring.

I just don't want to end up with Ten Years Gone in my career or more.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
That's going to cut a lot of people out of the running. Perhaps that's how they expect to complete the bridge process so quickly.
Hey 80, have they given an expected time-frame on completing the bridge process? I haven't heard anything.
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(a PNCL pilot asking a Delta pilot about our TA....now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.)
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