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Smoking hole 12-18-2012 10:17 AM

Another complaint thread
 
So, do to being based in ATL but refusing to live there I choose to commute. I have the pleasure to ride on one of Delta's chosen sub contractors often to get me to my family or back here to work. In the last two months I've made the trip 10 times. 3 of those have made it within an hour of being on time. The rest have been an absolute embarrassment. I have gotten to the point of not commuting in uniform because I'm not going to answer for the airlines failures. To be fair however, mainline hasn't served my destination much better.

And another thing..... the other night it took 56 minutes from touchdown until I received my planeside bags. Stellar performance and proud to be involved!!!

astec 12-18-2012 10:22 AM

It's not just delta. I fly on Eagle/AA once every six months on average, if that. I flew on them 2 times in 3 weeks last month, both times they turned 25 minute flights into 55 minutes-60 minutes for no reason at all. How long can it really take to MEL a Landing light? How about start and engine and taxi to the de ice stand?

The Juice 12-18-2012 10:29 AM


So, do to being based in ATL but refusing to live there I choose to commute. I have the pleasure to ride on one of Delta's chosen sub contractors often to get me to my family or back here to work. In the last two months I've made the trip 10 times. 3 of those have made it within an hour of being on time. The rest have been an absolute embarrassment. I have gotten to the point of not commuting in uniform because I'm not going to answer for the airlines failures. To be fair however, mainline hasn't served my destination much better.
Look at what's happening with the pilots at Pinnacle, for example. I'm surprised they would get the plane there at all, forget about on time.

Blood is still fresh from the Comair killing, but Delta's thirst still isn't quenched. I would not fault any Pinnacle pilot for making sure everything was "working" before they left the gate.

Sorry man, but there are bigger things going on than just your commute.

Smoking hole 12-18-2012 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1314326)
Look at what's happening with the pilots at Pinnacle, for example. I'm surprised they would get the plane there at all, forget about on time.

Blood is still fresh from the Comair killing, but Delta's thirst still isn't quenched. I would not fault any Pinnacle pilot for making sure everything was "working" before they left the gate.

Sorry man, but there are bigger things going on than just your commute.

Its not Pinnacle that I'm speaking of. Trust me, I am well aware of their issues and they have handled things very professionally as well did the comair folks.

Oskeewowow 12-18-2012 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1314326)
Sorry man, but there are bigger things going on than just your commute.

When American does it, they're heroes. When a regional does it, they're amateurs...

DL31082 12-18-2012 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by astec (Post 1314322)
It's not just delta. I fly on Eagle/AA once every six months on average, if that. I flew on them 2 times in 3 weeks last month, both times they turned 25 minute flights into 55 minutes-60 minutes for no reason at all. How long can it really take to MEL a Landing light? How about start and engine and taxi to the de ice stand?

You have obviously never flown for a regional. Paperwork seems to take forever for the dumbest things. And how long it takes to get to the de-ice pad is mostly determined by how long the line is.

astec 12-18-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by DL31082 (Post 1314334)
You have obviously never flown for a regional. Paperwork seems to take forever for the dumbest things. And how long it takes to get to the de-ice pad is mostly determined by how long the line is.

I currently work for a regional, so thats one point.

The airport we were at has 2 total gates, and we were the only departure at 6AM. How long can it really take.

FWIW, I work at a regional with a base on an island, where everything runs on island time, and it doesnt take 25 minutes to MEL a landing light. Write in book, call dispatch, call MOC, receive revised release with MEL, make entry into AML. 5-7 minutes if you're not trying to milk the clock purposely. Crew Placarding at its finest.

MachJ 12-18-2012 11:29 AM

Is this thread for real?
Yes, commuting sucks. Your options are to get another job or move to base. Whining is completely unproductive.

astec 12-18-2012 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1314370)
Is this thread for real?
Yes, commuting sucks. Your options are to get another job or move to base. Whining is completely unproductive.

but but but... yea you're right.. its fun to fuel fires though

Smoking hole 12-18-2012 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 1314370)
Is this thread for real?
Yes, commuting sucks. Your options are to get another job or move to base. Whining is completely unproductive.

The point is not commuting, it is how crappy a certain airline runs. I see many of the same paying customers who have had a belly full. As this airline's crews rub theirs hands and lick their chops at more flying, I'm guessing you will be next under the microscope of Delta and feel its ruthless thumb.

80ktsClamp 12-18-2012 12:15 PM

When I used to commute, I would always plan an extra flight if EV was involved! It was amazing how often I needed that extra flight, too. There was one streak where for 2 months I never was on a flight there that ran on time.

mooney 12-18-2012 12:36 PM

Just curious what were the reasons given for the delay? Could it be that now a previously already oversaturated ATL hub has now gotten every bit of the MEM flying out of it too? I get the pleasure of avoiding ATL just wondering if things have gotten worse since the MEM wind down....

ysslah 12-18-2012 01:12 PM

A few days ago, I was commuting on 9E from where I live to DTW. the flight went out 3 hours late, because someone discovered that it was due for line maintenance check when it got to where I live (small town out station). Mismanagement at its finest, and certainly not pilots' fault. That being said, every regional have issues: some just have more than the others at any given moment. The Delta management could take all the flying back to the mainline and have positive control over the quality of their product once again. But they won't.

Truman_Sparks 12-18-2012 01:25 PM

And to the OP....I suppose your incredible airline never has delays, never is affected by weather and never has maintenance issues with your 25 year old planes? Whatever, flaimbaiter. It's funny how my last 6 months at EV my flights are 100% completion, and over 85% A-0, and every one that wasn't was weather related except 2 maintenance delays. Quit *****ing and regional bashing. Check out the ATL stats, EV is not far behind DAL, and sometimes ahead.

Bozo 12-18-2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Smoking hole (Post 1314318)
So, do to being based in ATL but refusing to live there I choose to commute. I have the pleasure to ride on one of Delta's chosen sub contractors often to get me to my family or back here to work. In the last two months I've made the trip 10 times. 3 of those have made it within an hour of being on time. The rest have been an absolute embarrassment. I have gotten to the point of not commuting in uniform because I'm not going to answer for the airlines failures. To be fair however, mainline hasn't served my destination much better.

And another thing..... the other night it took 56 minutes from touchdown until I received my planeside bags. Stellar performance and proud to be involved!!!


So are you jumpseating or riding on passes?

How long did it take to get your bags once the a/c was parked?

seafeye 12-18-2012 01:48 PM

If it sucks so bad then commute on your own airline. Ohhh you can't? Then ****.

love2av8 12-18-2012 02:36 PM


5-7 minutes if you're not trying to milk the clock purposely. Crew Placarding at its finest.
Are you for real? Dude no one is getting paid to Crew placard so how is anyone milking the clock? I've never seen it done in under 15 minutes either.
And we don't control the deice pad. We go where they tell us when they tell us. I have my doubts you're a pilot.
Total flamebait if you ask me.


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