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BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-18-2013 05:48 PM

TSA or GoJets?
 
Ok guys/gals, don't beat me up too much. I have my airlineapps complete and have talked to TSA, but nothing from GoJets. The shooting range is open, so shoot away.

lolwut 01-18-2013 05:49 PM

GoJets. Go to somewhere where your career will have a future instead of somewhere that your only option is to cry about how it doesn't and its someone else's fault.

ysslah 01-18-2013 05:51 PM

Why don't you stay where you are if you're 744FO?

Ultralight 01-18-2013 05:54 PM

Where is that caption of the guy eating popcorn?

BitterOHFO 01-18-2013 06:01 PM

Hmmm that's like picking between syphilis or gonorrhea! Tough choice! I would choose abstinence and not go near flying for an airline!

BBJay 01-18-2013 06:03 PM

If you have 4500 hours, or will before long then GoJet has alot to offer...upgrade to Captain could be months, not half a decade.
Commuting is the other big issue, who has a base near where you live?

BBJay 01-18-2013 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by ysslah (Post 1333838)
Why don't you stay where you are if you're 744FO?

Possible Southern or Nevergreen furlough

atooraya 01-18-2013 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1333837)
GoJets. Go to somewhere where your career will have a future instead of somewhere that your only option is to cry about how it doesn't and its someone else's fault.

http://i.imgur.com/yEXbRKx.png

RgrMurdock 01-18-2013 06:08 PM

How is this thread not closed already? Taking bets now

BBJay 01-18-2013 06:13 PM

RAH is GoJet bashing, that's funny

BlueHenFR8Dawg 01-18-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BBJay (Post 1333856)
RAH is GoJet bashing, that's funny

No hidden secrets or trying to start a schoolyard fight or whatever you call it? Yes, I'm a furloughed ACMI 400-puke and wanting to fly. Educating myself on you're schoolyard and wanted some opinions. I'm not looking for a bash thread.

BBJay 01-18-2013 06:46 PM

Sorry, in my opinion GoJet. I know it's hard to ask a question and get any useful information. Been there.
Recent GoJet class had tons of experience from all over the industry...Regional, ACMI, 91, 121. Good mix and lots of experience. Average probably 3000-4000 hours. Some with lots more.

yeah sure 01-18-2013 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1333837)
GoJets. Go to somewhere where your career will have a future instead of somewhere that your only option is to cry about how it doesn't and its someone else's fault.

The pilot group tried to stand up for fair wages and QOL, and you think that's pathetic? Must feel good to talk big....

clearprop 01-18-2013 07:12 PM

out after the lick

lame I know,,,,,,that's all I got

AVIATORCFI 01-18-2013 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by BitterOHFO (Post 1333843)
Hmmm that's like picking between syphilis or gonorrhea! Tough choice! I would choose abstinence and not go near flying for an airline!

I like this comparison, it is just plain funny .

bernouli 01-18-2013 09:01 PM

Gojet. Without a doubt. It's simply a more pleasant place to work.

There's been more mention of a UAL flow through also in a recent newsletter from management. For whatever thats worth.

atooraya 01-18-2013 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1333953)
Gojet. Without a doubt. It's simply a more pleasant place to work.

There's been more mention of a UAL flow through also in a recent newsletter from management. For whatever thats worth.

A GoJet pilot advocating GoJet a better place to work at? GET OUTTA HERE!

http://i.imgur.com/Pvb6V.gif

crustacean 01-18-2013 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1333953)
There's been more mention of a UAL flow through also in a recent newsletter from management.

http://i.imgur.com/iSkFn.jpg

Paid2fly 01-18-2013 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by bernouli (Post 1333953)
Gojet. Without a doubt. It's simply a more pleasant place to work.

There's been more mention of a UAL flow through also in a recent newsletter from management. For whatever thats worth.







And everyone knows how trustworthy management is!

RgrMurdock 01-18-2013 10:58 PM

UAL flow through? Yeah that's been mentioned at TSA. Everyone believes that. Are you guys that naive?

crflyer 01-19-2013 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by crustacean (Post 1333967)

nice, i like that one

DryMotorBoatin 01-19-2013 05:09 AM

Look at each of their contracts. Tsa's contract is better. And GoJet won't have a new contract for at least. 4-5 years and even then it'll be tsa-1.

FlyingKat 01-19-2013 05:12 AM

Wherever you can get the first class date. I've heard TSA has openings in the next couple of classes, and GJ is getting backed up and could be a few months.

KingBird50 01-19-2013 05:34 AM

it is true the G7 is backed up a little. They just reduced a Feb class from 20 to 8 but then in March it is going to pick up again. TSA is getting more aircraft so they will reduce shrinkage and maybe even grow a little and I am happy that those guys have some good news for once. I do have some friends over there and have always been treated very well by TSA guys. If you do interview at TSA and they offer you a job G7 won't look at you. I think this is pretty much an unwritten agreement between the DO's which is understandable as they both need to hire pilots.
I would look at what base they have and which one works well for you and also consider that right now G7 has a quicker upgrade which could change you never know. But g7 upgraded EVERYONE that they could last month which was 40 pilots. There are no more cqfo's and the only pilots upgrading now are the ones that are finally meeting the 4500 hour (3500+1000 G7 time) requirement. So if you have the time chances are it is an instant upgrade. If you don't have the time you will fly here about 800-900 hours a year so add that into your plans.
I do not know the reserve rules or the contract rules at TSA but at G7 the reserve rules.......I don't think we have reserve rules come to think of it.
As far as the contract goes G7's contract is .199 of an inch thick and if you do not include the cover pages it is .180 thick (I measured it) so you get the idea. But I will say this and that is I have personally run into very few problems here at G7 you tote the line show up on time and don't abuse sick call you will have no issues.
G7 has two FA's on each aircraft so twice the drama or fun or hell depending on how you look at it.

Any other questions feel free to PM me.:D

USMCFLYR 01-19-2013 05:55 AM

Mod note:

I see that the *games* have started again with the cute internet forum word games. For those of you new to the drama, or have forgotten since the last go-round, the posts will be deleted and reminders/infractions/or bans will be given as appropriate.

Pilot7 01-19-2013 06:09 AM

Are you even looking at Eagle or ExpressJet? Both companies are much better than either TSA or GoJets.

PCLCREW 01-19-2013 06:15 AM

TSA holdings owns 3 airlines... Look into Compass.
I know guys from my current airline that left and went to GoJet. They tell me that GoJet makes Pinnacle look good. If that's the case then I would stay away.
Compass or Skywest.

Ultralight 01-19-2013 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1334073)
Mod note:

I see that the *games* have started again with the cute internet forum word games. For those of you new to the drama, or have forgotten since the last go-round, the posts will be deleted and reminders/infractions/or bans will be given as appropriate.

Come on, everyone finds them entertaining. Can't we at least have a seperate I B F T L thread with the best of the best captions and video clips without the war of words?

Pilotguy143 01-19-2013 08:57 AM

If you have the time to upgrade, (4,500 total, 1000 turbine, 1000 me) and live near a base, I would consider GoJet.

That said, with the current announcement from TSA, I think TSA wouldn't be a bad move either. Do what is best for you and your family.

Slats 01-19-2013 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1334207)
Come on, everyone finds them entertaining. Can't we at least have a seperate I B F T L thread with the best of the best captions and video clips without the war of words?

Agreed. There's no fun here anymore.

bernouli 01-19-2013 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotguy143 (Post 1334211)
If you have the time to upgrade, (4,500 total, 1000 turbine, 1000 me) and live near a base, I would consider GoJet.

That said, with the current announcement from TSA, I think TSA wouldn't be a bad move either. Do what is best for you and your family.

Completely agree.

Avoiding commuting makes any and everything better (even reserve).

Should you have the option of living in base, that should weigh the heaviest on your decision.

furlough06 01-19-2013 07:36 PM

I personally

furlough06 01-19-2013 07:41 PM

sorry couldnt help myself

pause 01-19-2013 07:45 PM

Furlogh06.....read much?
 

Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1334073)
Mod note:

I see that the *games* have started again with the cute internet forum word games. For those of you new to the drama, or have forgotten since the last go-round, the posts will be deleted and reminders/infractions/or bans will be given as appropriate.

some filler words...

furlough06 01-19-2013 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by pause (Post 1334564)
some filler words...

fixed it, happy?

TBucket 01-19-2013 11:43 PM

In answer to the OP's question, only one airline's pilots require the mods to delete posts and ban/suspend people to keep from hurting their feelings. It might behoove you to wonder why that is, and if you want to be a part of the group that has inspired so much dislike.

RJSAviator76 01-20-2013 12:28 AM

Considering you've flown a 400, why not look overseas at places like Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, etc.?

Far better cash, you'll upgrade on a heavy well before upgrading at a US regional with the exception of maybe GoJet, all while making good money as an FO.

EatMyPropwash 01-20-2013 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot7 (Post 1334083)
Are you even looking at Eagle or ExpressJet? Both companies are much better than either TSA or GoJets.

Yeah, and even with new planes you'll upgrade in 4 years (better than 6+ right now) because they're too damn big...


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