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Oskeewowow 01-30-2013 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Karma (Post 1342634)
Seriously, you're commuting on reserve and complaining about it? Nobody should ever commute on reserve or even a line. If you do that too yourself we don't want to hear you complain about it. Part of accepting an airline career is having to move around a few times.

Wow, who tinkled in your wheaties? I'm not on RSV anymore, that was 08-11. I got hired right into the base I live in. After a few months online, I got involuntarily displaced to a different certificate. I commuted to reserve for less than a year. When my lease was up, I moved to my new base. It was a bad move because 6 months later, we opened a base that was a few hour drive from home.

I'm not complaining, just sharing my experience. It's not worth it to move for this company. Bases open & close constantly. I know Captains who are on their 10th base. Not everyone can just pick up their whole lives and start over in a new city. You made an assumption about me, so I'll make one about you. You're in your mid twenties, single, and not particularly close to your family.

SUX4U 01-30-2013 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Oskeewowow (Post 1342726)
Wow, who tinkled in your wheaties? I'm not on RSV anymore, that was 08-11. I got hired right into the base I live in. After a few months online, I got involuntarily displaced to a different certificate. I commuted to reserve for less than a year. When my lease was up, I moved to my new base. It was a bad move because 6 months later, we opened a base that was a few hour drive from home.

I'm not complaining, just sharing my experience. It's not worth it to move for this company. Bases open & close constantly. I know Captains who are on their 10th base. Not everyone can just pick up their whole lives and start over in a new city. You made an assumption about me, so I'll make one about you. You're in your mid twenties, single, and not particularly close to your family.

Ohh give me a break man! Everyone should be able to just pack up there lives every 6 to 15 months and move to the new flavor of the week! You know your kids sure as hell dont need to make long lasting friendships! Ohh your wife doesnt want to leave her better paying job to move to Columbus or Indy? Tell her to suck it up because you dont want to commute! Bottom line, there is no excuse NOT to move for an airline! :D

dingo222 01-30-2013 04:50 PM

just curious, how junior or senior is dca/iad on either cert? thx

thump 01-30-2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by dingo222 (Post 1342826)
just curious, how junior or senior is dca/iad on either cert? thx

Well... there is no IAD base, so forget about that.

DCA has about 50 FOs and is a mix of super senior with junior. Not much in the middle. The top 13-ish FOs in DCA have bypassed upgrade. They are all content due to rich spouses or are waiting on a DCA 170 upgrade (which is TOUGH).

In short, you should be able to get into DCA as an FO, but don't expect much movement.

gearmaid 02-02-2013 02:54 AM

How about getting a 2 week notice that HNL is closing and you're being displaced to LGA?

Karma 02-02-2013 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by gearmaid (Post 1344532)
How about getting a 2 week notice that HNL is closing and you're being displaced to LGA?

The HNL based pilots knew that flying contract wasn't long term and would be most likely coming back at the end of it before they even went out there.

Oskeewowow 02-02-2013 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Karma (Post 1344580)
The HNL based pilots knew that flying contract wasn't long term and would be most likely coming back at the end of it before they even went out there.

So the company dumped millions into Mokulele, then flew three 170's up the Pacific Coast, around Alaska, island hopped down the North Pacific Ocean, and relocated a handful of pilots halfway around the world, just for a short term gain in flying?

You sure have an interesting take on this company...

thump 02-02-2013 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Karma (Post 1344580)
The HNL based pilots knew that flying contract wasn't long term and would be most likely coming back at the end of it before they even went out there.

More specifically, they all went out there voluntarily as that base was outside the terms of our contract. No pity from me. If they had all held out, the union could have had some leverage to negotiate better pay overrides and work rules for that base.

PCLCREW 02-03-2013 04:21 AM



Originally Posted by Karma (Post 1344580)
The HNL based pilots knew that flying contract wasn't long term and would be most likely coming back at the end of it before they even went out there.

More specifically, they all went out there voluntarily as that base was outside the terms of our contract. No pity from me. If they had all held out, the union could have had some leverage to negotiate better pay overrides and work rules for that base.
Man I don't know about that. Your union over there seems to get about as much done as ours at 9E.

magnus0322 02-03-2013 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by PCLCREW:1345036


Originally Posted by Karma (Post 1344580)
The HNL based pilots knew that flying contract wasn't long term and would be most likely coming back at the end of it before they even went out there.

More specifically, they all went out there voluntarily as that base was outside the terms of our contract. No pity from me. If they had all held out, the union could have had some leverage to negotiate better pay overrides and work rules for that base.
Man I don't know about that. Your union over there seems to get about as much done as ours at 9E.

As former 9E, I dare to say that TW and company are leap years better than the IBT. Then again, management here is way more hostile than management there.


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