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skyxbomb 02-26-2013 02:36 PM

PSA is 12 hrs and zero tolerance I think. Man I need to move to a diff company!! Can't even use mouthwash without worrying about breathalyzer!

CrakPipeOvrheat 02-26-2013 02:49 PM

Why you shouldn't talk about your job while
 
Sounds like he will not be in any legal trouble, only work trouble.

snippercr 02-26-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrakPipeOvrheat (Post 1360866)
Sounds like he will not be in any legal trouble, only work trouble.

Legal no - he should no have to worry about jail time or fines. However, if Skywest has a zero tolerance policy and a .02 limit, he will get fired and with that on his record, never work another airline job again.

IA1125 02-26-2013 03:04 PM

Being under the FAA limit of .04 but over the Company limit of .02, he "should" be able to enter the HIMS program, if Sky West has one.

It doesn't say when or where the crew was "intercepted." As long as it was before entering the aircraft, the FO might have just gotten the biggest break of his or her life.

todd1200 02-26-2013 03:09 PM

Edit -- nevermind, missed the post stating that the limit at OO is .02.

xjtguy 02-26-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1360869)
Legal no - he should no have to worry about jail time or fines. However, if Skywest has a zero tolerance policy and a .02 limit, he will get fired and with that on his record, never work another airline job again.

Kinda depends on a whole slew of factors, and this scenario has played out multiple times before at some of the places I've worked. And how SKW deals with it may NOT be how some others deal with it, but here's one possible way;

Management/HR/Chief Pilot: "Hey, you broke a company policy, we can't have that. We'd like to be generous and suggest you submit your resignation."

"Co-pilot"/FO: "But I didn't break an FAR".

Management/HR/Chief Pilot: "Ok, fair enough, we'll fire you. And it'll be on your record that you were fired from an air carrier. So we'll tell you AGAIN, we'd like you submit your resignation, but it's your choice what you'd rather have".

clearprop 02-26-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by todd1200 (Post 1360880)
Edit -- nevermind, missed the post stating that the limit at OO is .02.

and 8 hours applies at OO

johnso29 02-26-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IA1125 (Post 1360875)
Being under the FAA limit of .04 but over the Company limit of .02, he "should" be able to enter the HIMS program, if Sky West has one.

It doesn't say when or where the crew was "intercepted." As long as it was before entering the aircraft, the FO might have just gotten the biggest break of his or her life.

The HIMS program is available to Skywest pilots. If I were him I'd be looking into it.

ninjadriver 02-26-2013 03:32 PM

Not sure what a union has to do with it but OO does have a HIMS program.

johnso29 02-26-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjadriver (Post 1360894)
Not sure what a union has to do with it but OO does have a HIMS program.

Whether it's available to a pilot group is usually dictated by the pilot group's union, or the airline's management. Not all non union carriers participate. Then again, neither do all union pilot groups. For instance, SWA doesn't participate. Nor does Virgin America.

This is based off info I found on the HIMS program website. I did look it up though, & corrected my previous post.


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