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Ramprat 03-04-2013 04:31 AM

Its not so much an issue of radiation, its having to now take your belt off and everything outof your pockets (boarding pass, wallet, etc) when you normally wouldn't have to.

Captain Tony 03-04-2013 06:36 AM

Not wanting to be "that guy", but it might not be such a good idea to give would be terrorists a road map to sneak stuff into the airport on an open forum. I'd hate to lose the few "privileges" we have with the Smurf Police. Just saying. The first time someone dresses as a pilot and tries to get in, we'll be back in the long line with everyone else.

MoarAlpha 03-04-2013 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 1364514)
Just do the screening and get over it. You think sitting next to 5 CRTs, multiple high strength antennas, and 5 TRUs at 30000ft doesn't expose you to radiation?

LOL

So true. Pick your battles people. It's really pathetic how uptight people get about walking through a sensor.

kais 03-04-2013 07:52 AM

I always feel the need to tell them just how much I enjoy the hands-on pat down when receiving such pleasure.

snippercr 03-04-2013 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Rnav (Post 1364583)
Well supposedly they are phasing out these machines and moving to smaller airports(not much help to commuter/regional pilots).

TSA quietly removing some full body scanners - CBS News

Old news, most airports have completely removed the backscatter xray machines and instead are using the mm wave "tubes." I know ORD has completely removed all the BS xray machines and have mm wave.

cdn533 03-05-2013 10:17 PM

Few weeks ago commuting in uniform TSA asked me for a boarding pass.
Not only that, they also checked for liquids in my roller bag, they told because I'm not "on duty" I am not exempt from the 3-1-1 rule.
I asked for the supervisor, his answer was "you are not on duty, no exemptions".
File a report with tsa online, the manager called me and told the supervisor was doing his job.

The funny thing, Ive been commuting from this airport for 3 years and never had any problem. TSA bunch of m......... .

BenS 03-06-2013 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 1364407)
Depends, I j/s out of LAX last year with my family. I was not in uniform, they let me pass with all my liquid and gel.

... And the trip home...?

cartean 03-06-2013 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by cdn533 (Post 1365990)
Few weeks ago commuting in uniform TSA asked me for a boarding pass.
Not only that, they also checked for liquids in my roller bag, they told because I'm not "on duty" I am not exempt from the 3-1-1 rule.
I asked for the supervisor, his answer was "you are not on duty, no exemptions".
File a report with tsa online, the manager called me and told the supervisor was doing his job.

The funny thing, Ive been commuting from this airport for 3 years and never had any problem. TSA bunch of m......... .

How did they know you weren't on duty?

rickair7777 03-06-2013 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by 9easy (Post 1364514)
Just do the screening and get over it. You think sitting next to 5 CRTs, multiple high strength antennas, and 5 TRUs at 30000ft doesn't expose you to radiation?

CRT's yes. remember how they told us not to sit right in front the (old CRT) TV when we were kids? They were right...thoise things leak low-level x-rays. The older the design, the more likely it is to be a hazard. If you gotta fly an old plane, pick one with steam gauges :D

Antennas should be sufficiently attenuated by the hull. The radar is the freq you need to worry about, hopefully there's not much of a back lobe getting through.

TRU's (and all the onboard electrical powers systems) are far too low frequency and voltage to be a hazard in the known dielectrical-thermal realm. If you want to be concerned with non-thermal health risks...well that borders on tin-foil hat paranoia (in which case the tin-foil hat might help).

Buzzing around in the flight levels for decades will give you a small, barely measurable but nonetheless real increase in cancer risk. If you can avoid big solar flare days, do so.

Tampa 2 03-06-2013 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by cartean (Post 1366056)
How did they know you weren't on duty?

I was wondering that as well. Tsa never ask me anything while in uniform. Sometimes out of uniform they ask if I have a ticket or jumpseating. Where were you flying out of ?


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