:eek: :D That is funny right there, I don't care who you are that's funny!

uhhhh aahhhhh .......golf clap, golf clap...

All too well! Though I heard good things about XJ in terms of their operation and training, and I assume it showed through in their hiring standards. I'll say it as a ex-9E guy, I think XJ was on a higher echelon than 9E. Colgan on the other hand was a complete train wreck, owned by some of the worst management ever. Just watch "Flying Cheap" and you'll get the idea.

I dunno, good luck! I've heard some horror stories of XJ and 9L guys not passing 9E training over small stuff. Hopefully those days are over now that XJ will start running things.

"I got nothing to say in an argumentative/constructive manner, so I'll just attack his personal family."

Well played :rolleyes:

I really don't envision that happening and to be honest, I don't think DALPA would go for it. They were very quick to make sure the XJ and CP flows ended. And if the in the rarest of rarest cases 9E does get its list merged into Delta, then so be it, more power to ya. Who knows when and even if that will happen. In the mean time, I cannot afford to live in self-voted poverty so I won't regret my move. Nothing stops anyone from applying in the future off the street to United, Delta, or American.

Put it in context: it was a joke. I meant it to be funny. Some folks got it. Apparently, you did not. I'm sorry if I offended, but your obsession with PinnaColAbba is rather ridiculous.

My buddies and I all kid each other about banging each others Mums. It's a JOKE. It isn't like I am teasing somebody about their mentally ill kid. (For the PC crowd, my last comment was meant to show even I have limits... and I have a brother that is schizophrenic)

Side note RE: PinnaColAbba

I still like that name. It gives homage to all three pilot groups and shows us merging into one. G#d knows we need to be unified if we are to have any hope of surviving.

I know, it was suppose to be a joke-response back. Believe me I'm not offended easy on forums, despite how heated it may seem.

Consideration needs to be given to who's management team was running Delta at that time. Back then Delta was running "Delta" now Northwest is running "Delta". Then plan for Comair had been laid out prior to Northwest running things at Delta.

It is possible the economics are changing?

Richard Anderson definitely does not call McKinsey and Co. to get ideas on how to run an airline. He is a vertical integration, process driven, results guy and to my amazement, he and his team have executed.

I am not sure I understand the benefit of a captive "farm team" regional airline. You and I have never seen "free agency" benefit the player in the aviation industry. Could management be that fearful of a pilot shortage? I doubt it.

Black helicopter stuff .... (don't read if you don't like spy novels)

The Delta MEC, traditionally, has fought unity at the regional level.

Notice that in the Pinnacle deal ALPA specifically and intentionally excluded the Delta MEC and thanks to the incredible power President Moak enjoys, Moak and Wychor did it without a peep of complaint.

Moak tends to do things in such a way that they are done before the membership even gets a whiff of what happened. Could Moak be engineering restoration of job protection provisions? Who knows?

Doing so would go against the action he took with Compass as MEC Chairman, but economics do change and so does airline management.

Perhaps there is a good reason the Delta pilots are locked out of whatever is getting cooked up back there.

[QUOTE=Pogey Bait;1398503]Consideration needs to be given to who's management team was running Delta at that time. Back then Delta was running "Delta" now Northwest is running "Delta". Then plan for Comair had been laid out prior to Northwest running things at Delta.[/QUOTE

huh? what managers would that be? our top brass has not changed, who are you referring to?