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aviatorpr 04-16-2013 09:14 PM

I think CA Arnie was so friendly was because DALPA and their pilot group is ****ed their mgmt and 9E ALPA brokered a back door interview agreement. I can't wait till our guys get a chance to interview, they are going to get your hopes up and send you packing right back to 9E. They will fly down our list and MAYBE hire 10% of it. They'll get their rocks off for wasting your time and getting you excited about the possibility of being at DL, but at the end of the day, they really had no intentions of bringing you on board. Just my optmistic opinion

Andrew_VT 04-17-2013 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 1392666)
They will fly down our list and MAYBE hire 10% of it.

They could only hire 10% but that would mean they'd have to interview 90 of us a month (which sounds like a lot of work). Then when they reach the bottom of the eligible list... they'd have to start over again at the top.

gojo 04-17-2013 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 1392666)
I think CA Arnie was so friendly was because DALPA and their pilot group is ****ed their mgmt and 9E ALPA brokered a back door interview agreement. I can't wait till our guys get a chance to interview, they are going to get your hopes up and send you packing right back to 9E. They will fly down our list and MAYBE hire 10% of it. They'll get their rocks off for wasting your time and getting you excited about the possibility of being at DL, but at the end of the day, they really had no intentions of bringing you on board. Just my optmistic opinion

Got to love these guys that can predict the future.

TeddyKGB 04-17-2013 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1392648)
How many total XJ pilots had/have the option to flow? If turned down initially, it can't be accepted again?

Thanks

I meant to say that the most senior pilot who flowed in 2008 was around #70 so the top 69 turned it down. Once you turn down the flow and someone junior to you flows, you are no longer flow thru eligible. I'd guesstimate that the most junior XJ pilots who flowed, pre SSI, was around #170 give or take a little. So to answer your question, approx 170 XJ pilots have had the option to flow with only 54 takers. I think there have been 6 flow groups of 9 pilots per group.

Herman 04-17-2013 08:24 AM

Nobody said it was gonna be easy...
 

Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 1392666)
I think CA Arnie was so friendly was because DALPA and their pilot group is ****ed their mgmt and 9E ALPA brokered a back door interview agreement. I can't wait till our guys get a chance to interview, they are going to get your hopes up and send you packing right back to 9E. They will fly down our list and MAYBE hire 10% of it. They'll get their rocks off for wasting your time and getting you excited about the possibility of being at DL, but at the end of the day, they really had no intentions of bringing you on board. Just my optmistic opinion

I hope that you are right. Flow will destroy the character and strength of Delta Air Lines. Many of us have already seen it 1st hand. The entitlement attitude, youthful naivete and general lack of professionalism is disturbing. If one wishes to join the ranks of Delta, then work hard, study hard, and for heaven sakes, fill out an application. Otherwise may I suggest Virgin America...I think they may be hiring.

Saabs 04-17-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Herman (Post 1392896)
I hope that you are right. Flow will destroy the character and strength of Delta Air Lines. Many of us have already seen it 1st hand. The entitlement attitude, youthful naivete and general lack of professionalism is disturbing. If one wishes to join the ranks of Delta, then work hard, study hard, and for heaven sakes, fill out an application. Otherwise may I suggest Virgin America...I think they may be hiring.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight:rolleyes:

gojo 04-17-2013 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by Herman (Post 1392896)
I hope that you are right. Flow will destroy the character and strength of Delta Air Lines. Many of us have already seen it 1st hand. The entitlement attitude, youthful naivete and general lack of professionalism is disturbing. If one wishes to join the ranks of Delta, then work hard, study hard, and for heaven sakes, fill out an application. Otherwise may I suggest Virgin America...I think they may be hiring.

Why is it that many "Delta pilots" look down on everybody at other airlines like they're God"s gift to aviation? Douch bags can be hired through the normal interview process as well. I don't know which is worse,"The entitlement attitude" as you called it, or arrogance. To me they're very simular

Fly782 04-17-2013 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1392930)
Why is it that many "Delta pilots" look down on everybody at other airlines like they're God"s gift to aviation? Douch bags can be hired through the normal interview process as well. I don't know which is worse,"The entitlement attitude" as you called it, or arrogance. To me they're very simular

I think the problem is that they all had to work hard to get there and meet all the hiring requirements. These short cuts don't sit well with these guys, which is understandable. The culture is real and they want it to continue the way it has been. O ya plenty of other majors have guys' who look down on people. It's not just Delta... Sky Nazis anyone?

fatsopilot 04-17-2013 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1392934)
I think the problem is that they all had to work hard to get there and meet all the hiring requirements. These short cuts don't sit well with these guys, which is understandable. The culture is real and they want it to continue the way it has been. O ya plenty of other majors have guys' who look down on people. It's not just Delta... Sky Nazis anyone?

I don't get it, Delta has one of the least stringent requirements in the industry. I would guess that 90% of the current regional population meet those minimums.

Fly782 04-17-2013 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by fatsopilot (Post 1392945)
I don't get it, Delta has one of the least stringent requirements in the industry. I would guess that 90% of the current regional population meet those minimums.

Minimums now weren't necessarily the minimums most of these guys got hired under. So both sides have a misunderstanding of each other IMO.


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