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sigep_nm 11-27-2006 06:03 PM

Asa Job
 
So ASA called today for an interview. Deciding to put into action what the rest of this forum has already suggested, I turned the interview down since I didnt want to work for them in a shiny CRJ for 19 and hour. I think we are all worth more than that. Good move? I am hoping that more people do this to help stop the newest NASCAR race "The race to the bottom 500" from gaining popularity. Anyone else wanna chime in?

Quagmire 11-27-2006 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 85505)
So ASA called today for an interview. Deciding to put into action what the rest of this forum has already suggested, I turned the interview down since I didnt want to work for them in a shiny CRJ for 19 and hour. I think we are all worth more than that. Good move? I am hoping that more people do this to help stop the newest NASCAR race "The race to the bottom 500" from gaining popularity. Anyone else wanna chime in?

I did the same three months ago and I am sooooo sooooo soooo soooooo glad that I did. Shortly after that I got on with a much better and more stable company.

FloatGeek 11-28-2006 06:35 AM

Hey Quaq, who did you get on with?

N6724G 11-28-2006 08:03 AM

ASA is my dream airline veacue I am a native Atlantan and really do not want to move. AT first I didnt want to be an airline pilot because of the low pay, but its only for a year. I cansuck that up. Heck, if I can do a year long tour in Iraq I can deal with one year of low pay. I understand what some people think though. Trust me, I am 37 years old had plenty of professional jobs in the past so I am not stary eyed

duvie 11-28-2006 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 85696)
ASA is my dream airline veacue I am a native Atlantan and really do not want to move. AT first I didnt want to be an airline pilot because of the low pay, but its only for a year. I cansuck that up. Heck, if I can do a year long tour in Iraq I can deal with one year of low pay. I understand what some people think though. Trust me, I am 37 years old had plenty of professional jobs in the past so I am not stary eyed

ASA is slowly being eaten by its parent Sky West. I don't know if ASA will even exist in the same way it does now in the near future. If ATL is your dream I would suggest Making friends with AirTran guys. I have a friend who just got hired on there after working for ATA. He loves. AirTran is a relatively stable and well run airline. You'll probably have to work for another regional to get the time first, but I don't think ASA is the way to go. There may not be alot of upgrading and I think alot of the flying will be taken by skywest, especially now that they have been awarded old Comair flying. Their presence on the East Coast is becoming solidified.

Tinpusher007 11-28-2006 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 85732)
ASA is slowly being eaten by its parent Sky West. I don't know if ASA will even exist in the same way it does now in the near future.

I hate to say it for the sake of some ASA employees, but Im not so sure that will be a bad idea. ASA has always had performance problems and ATL continues to be a poorly run station. It is DL's premier hub and ASA's busiest operation and it is nothing short of a clusterf*&k, all of the time. ASA and SKW ops are seemingly night and day. Perhaps, SKW can do better.

hatetobreakit2u 11-28-2006 12:23 PM

whats the deal with skywest east coast now? i thought the farthest over was chicago. i might consider them now if they put a base somewhere along the coast in place of comairs routes

atpwannabe 11-28-2006 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by N6724G (Post 85696)
ASA is my dream airline veacue I am a native Atlantan and really do not want to move. AT first I didnt want to be an airline pilot because of the low pay, but its only for a year. I cansuck that up. Heck, if I can do a year long tour in Iraq I can deal with one year of low pay. I understand what some people think though. Trust me, I am 37 years old had plenty of professional jobs in the past so I am not stary eyed


N6724G:

I feel the same way. I am targeting all of the airlines that are based out of ATL and other SE US cities. Being born & raised in the SE part of the US, I would prefer to be based out of either ATL, MCO, MIA or any other city in the SE US. I know the latter two choices are a crap shoot and are virtually impossible, however, ATL is not a bad base. If things work out, I figure on living in Clayton County Georgia, Olive Branch MS, or Greensboro, NC.


atp

DMEarc 11-28-2006 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by atpwannabe (Post 85849)
N6724G:

I feel the same way. I am targeting all of the airlines that are based out of ATL and other SE US cities. Being born & raised in the SE part of the US, I would prefer to be based out of either ATL, MCO, MIA or any other city in the SE US. I know the latter two choices are a crap shoot and are virtually impossible, however, ATL is not a bad base. If things work out, I figure on living in Clayton County Georgia, Olive Branch MS, or Greensboro, NC.


atp

If you want to live in OLV- then Pinnacle is your best bet. You should be able to get MEM in a couple of months.

Koolaidman 11-29-2006 04:48 AM

Yeah, anyone going to ASA has pretty big b*lls in my opinion. It's a crap shoot as to what Uncle Jerry wants to do with that part of the SkyWest, Inc. plan.

As far as first year pay goes, the only place with GOOD first year pay is Horizon. A few others start from $22 - $24. Hope you don't expect more than that. Plus, the second year and first year combined are higher than most regionals, so I don't know if you can afford to take a pay cut or not.

skcblo120 11-29-2006 06:54 PM

Things are almost always bitter during contract negotiations. Mgmnt and labor fued over labor costs like cats and dogs while a/c and growth are used as bait. As an Acey driver I believe that we will have a new deal in the very near future, hopefully by Feb. JA has given upper Mgmnt the mandate to clean up our ops or they will be replaced. With that said we have seen some improvements in manpower and eq.

First year pay is horrible no matter what carrier you go to at the regional level. Hopefully in our new deal we can raise it to a livable rate.

24G, I can think of other carriers (Comair Mesa Mesaba) that are worse off than ASA. Don't let the rantings of a few deter your career goals.

sigmetron 11-29-2006 08:47 PM

Capt Dan Robertson S C U M B A A G
 
After being in a pool with asa since April or so,
I get this letter in the mail from Capt. Dan


Dear Joe,


Upon further examination of your application, some inconsistancies have been brought to light and unfortunately, I must drop you from the pool.

Not a spot on my flying, driving tickets, or for anything for that matter, all my employers gave me positive feedback. A month later I got another call from ASA asking me if I'd be interested in an interview for a pilot position.(???? hmmmm)
When I called Tomica, she said that I should not have called. that this is a warning, that the lawyers will be notified for they were the ones who said that we should'nt tell you that we decided not to hire you and they, (the lawyers ) told us not to tell you or anybody why we decided not to keep you in the pool. She thence took on this 'defensive stance', but I told her I was called again, she said he was a new guy and didnt know the lawyers wanted me out of the pool, she went on further informing me thet she didint like the pitch or the tone of my voice and told her supervisor that I called her a liar!! and not to call back.


Somebody tell me this is not the frigin "Twlight Zone" for Christ sakes??

sigmetron 11-29-2006 08:56 PM

Capt Dan Robertson S C U M B A A G
 
After being in a pool with asa since April or so,
I get this letter in the mail from Capt. Dan


Dear Joe,


upon further examination of your application, some inconsistancies have been brought to light and unfortunately, I must drop you from the pool.

Not a spot on my flying driving tickets anything, and all my employers gave me positive feedback. A month later I got a nother call from ASA asking me if I'd be interested in an interview for a pilot position.(???? hmmmm)
When I called Tomica, she said that I should not have called. that the lawyers will be notified for they were the ones who said that we shouldn't ire you and they, (the lawyers ) told us not to tell you or anybody why we decided not to keep you in the pool. She thence took on this 'defensive stance', but I told her I was called again, she said he was a new guy and didnt know the lawyers wanted me out of the pool, she went on further informing me thet she didint like the pitch or the tone of my voice and told her supervisor that I called her a liar!! and not to call back.


Somebody tell me this is not the frigin "Twlight Zone" for Christ sakes??

sigmetron 11-29-2006 08:57 PM

Maybe the lawyers found out that one of my relatives marched with Sherman through atlanta

skcblo120 11-30-2006 06:46 AM

flame bait...

sigmetron 11-30-2006 05:36 PM

It is the truth, regardless! I simply thought it would be interesting to share a truthfull scenairo, I REALLY was looking forward to working there. So excuse me for aspiring towards a goal. Using the word flame bait is flame bait

John Pennekamp 12-05-2006 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by duvie (Post 85732)
I think alot of the flying will be taken by skywest, especially now that they have been awarded old Comair flying. Their presence on the East Coast is becoming solidified.

Source? I heard SKYWEST INC. was awarded the flying. Our chief pilots are running around saying we'll be the ones doing it, not Skywest AIRLINES.

John Pennekamp 12-05-2006 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by sigmetron (Post 86439)
After being in a pool with asa since April or so,
I get this letter in the mail from Capt. Dan


Dear Joe,


Upon further examination of your application, some inconsistancies have been brought to light and unfortunately, I must drop you from the pool.

Not a spot on my flying, driving tickets, or for anything for that matter, all my employers gave me positive feedback. A month later I got another call from ASA asking me if I'd be interested in an interview for a pilot position.(???? hmmmm)
When I called Tomica, she said that I should not have called. that this is a warning, that the lawyers will be notified for they were the ones who said that we should'nt tell you that we decided not to hire you and they, (the lawyers ) told us not to tell you or anybody why we decided not to keep you in the pool. She thence took on this 'defensive stance', but I told her I was called again, she said he was a new guy and didnt know the lawyers wanted me out of the pool, she went on further informing me thet she didint like the pitch or the tone of my voice and told her supervisor that I called her a liar!! and not to call back.


Somebody tell me this is not the frigin "Twlight Zone" for Christ sakes??


True, D. Robertson is a scum bag. He used to be a chief pilot. About 8 years ago, he issued a mandate that pilots were only allowed to consume one bottle of company issued water per day, after that we were instructed to kep the bottle and refill it at the fountain. The next day he came in to find his office filled with empty water bottles. The letter was rescinded.

Consider it a blessing to get shot down by ASA. You can do much better. Go apply at Republic.

As for Tamika, all I can say is welcome to 'da ATL. You witnessed the "Atlantitude". Here in 'da ATL, social promotion gets extremely ignorant people into positions of power that they would not otherwise be qualified for. When the going gets tough, they get defensive and shot the opponent down with attitude and threats since that's all they have to offer.

If I were you, I would hire a lawyer and pursue ASA, especially since the company threatened you through Tamika with their lawyers. ASA thinks they can treat people however they want to... right up until they get sued.

IFlyFL410 12-05-2006 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 85505)
So ASA called today for an interview. Deciding to put into action what the rest of this forum has already suggested, I turned the interview down since I didnt want to work for them in a shiny CRJ for 19 and hour. I think we are all worth more than that. Good move? I am hoping that more people do this to help stop the newest NASCAR race "The race to the bottom 500" from gaining popularity. Anyone else wanna chime in?

Why did you apply in the first place? Are you proud of yourself now or something???

rickair7777 12-05-2006 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by IFlyFL410 (Post 88664)
Why did you apply in the first place? Are you proud of yourself now or something???

I'm not sure that's the same guy. Similar screen name though.

sigmetron 12-07-2006 02:12 PM

What I don't really understand is why I had to wait 9 months to be dumped!!

sigmetron 12-07-2006 02:22 PM

Tamiko's world
 
http://www.fotothing.com/sigmetron/p...511ba4fd6f244/

ksna 12-07-2006 02:41 PM

The only reason I am looking atr ASA is because of their base opening at LAX. Does anyoe know what the minimums are? The site says 1200/100

Is this true because on aviationinterviews it has people with lower times than stated?

sigep_nm 12-08-2006 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by IFlyFL410 (Post 88664)
Why did you apply in the first place? Are you proud of yourself now or something???

Okay, first of all you dont want a piece of my mind. And second of all, and most is important, back off. The reason that I applied for them was that I thought it would be a good opportunity. But, because I am not a moron I did some research and realized that it was in fact a basement regional, just like most if not all are. Since you want to know if I am proud of myself i will give you some background. I flight instruct full time at a reputable university. I also deal black jack 20 to 30 hours a week. Some information for you, I make more dealing black jack than you (MR. IFLYFL410) make, and I can guarantee it. What I was implying by this post was the fact that I was refusing to degrade OUR INDUSTRY by accepting a basement wage job to fly shiny jets. So in closing, YES I am proud of myself for not WH_RING out to some crank head regional just so I could fly a CRJ. Bigger and better things

sigmetron 12-08-2006 05:04 AM

:D How can you tell if someone is counting cards?

freezingflyboy 12-08-2006 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 89738)
Okay, first of all you dont want a piece of my mind. And second of all, and most is important, back off. The reason that I applied for them was that I thought it would be a good opportunity. But, because I am not a moron I did some research and realized that it was in fact a basement regional, just like most if not all are. Since you want to know if I am proud of myself i will give you some background. I flight instruct full time at a reputable university. I also deal black jack 20 to 30 hours a week. Some information for you, I make more dealing black jack than you (MR. IFLYFL410) make, and I can guarantee it. What I was implying by this post was the fact that I was refusing to degrade OUR INDUSTRY by accepting a basement wage job to fly shiny jets. So in closing, YES I am proud of myself for not WH_RING out to some crank head regional just so I could fly a CRJ. Bigger and better things

So I guess you're just waiting for that job at the majors to roll around...?:rolleyes:

IFlyFL410 12-08-2006 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by sigep_nm (Post 89738)
Okay, first of all you dont want a piece of my mind. And second of all, and most is important, back off. The reason that I applied for them was that I thought it would be a good opportunity. But, because I am not a moron I did some research and realized that it was in fact a basement regional, just like most if not all are. Since you want to know if I am proud of myself i will give you some background. I flight instruct full time at a reputable university. I also deal black jack 20 to 30 hours a week. Some information for you, I make more dealing black jack than you (MR. IFLYFL410) make, and I can guarantee it. What I was implying by this post was the fact that I was refusing to degrade OUR INDUSTRY by accepting a basement wage job to fly shiny jets. So in closing, YES I am proud of myself for not WH_RING out to some crank head regional just so I could fly a CRJ. Bigger and better things

Well, that's great and all, and more power to you. I also flight instructed at a reputable university, threw bags for an airline, knocked out a couple thousand hours in turboprops before that went under and here I am at ASA making a decent living, considering the circumstances here. Here's a piece of advice you might want to heed.....if you make so much money dealing blackjack, you should keep that job and fly for fun in your spare time. You'll never forgive yourself if you give up whatever amount you're apparently making to go fly airplanes for a living. And, for your sly remark suggesting that I *****d myself out to fly a jet, nothing could be further from the truth. Jets are nice, but I could care less if it were a Dash 8, Short 360 etc....you do know what those are, right?

Roll Inverted and Pull 12-08-2006 06:20 AM

" Klatu Barada Nicto"....maybe they found out that you were the guy that made the earth stand still....and quite frankly, driving a flying saucer is a lot different than flying an RJ...

BoilerUP 12-08-2006 06:58 AM

He's holding out for a call from FedEx...

AKfreighter 12-08-2006 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by Roll Inverted and Pull (Post 89784)
" Klatu Barada Nicto"....maybe they found out that you were the guy that made the earth stand still....and quite frankly, driving a flying saucer is a lot different than flying an RJ...

We all have to learn new things and make transitions:D

sigmetron 12-08-2006 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by Roll Inverted and Pull (Post 89784)
" Klatu Barada Nicto"....maybe they found out that you were the guy that made the earth stand still....and quite frankly, driving a flying saucer is a lot different than flying an RJ...

SAY THAT TO MY FACE YOU SCUM SUCKING SCUMBAG then we'll see who the ****** is

freezingflyboy 12-08-2006 02:16 PM

Geeez, seems like everyone in here with Sig in their name needs some midol....

sigmetron 12-08-2006 02:21 PM

It is always people like you who are the first to point fingers after you start something I have no quams about dealing with crap like you
Your bull crap insults is the resort of faggy wimps! If you feel it is necessary to make rank and crass statements, That shows in your attitude decision making ang wimpy coward crap to boot, unless of course your the scumsucking dan robertson

Roll Inverted and Pull 12-08-2006 03:53 PM

Look *********, I was making a joke and letting you know that someone "got it"'..If you can`t take a joke then kiss my a$$.BTW, I have no idea who Dan Robertson is.

ksna 12-08-2006 05:23 PM

The only reason I am looking at ASA is because of their base opening at LAX. Does anyoe know what the minimums are? The site says 1200/100

Is this true because on aviationinterviews it has people with lower times than stated. Any luck if you have 121 time and under 1000tt?

sigep_nm 12-08-2006 10:07 PM

Not waiting for a major and not looking for fedex, for the person asking about counting cards, look for the variation of bet. If they bet small and then suddnenly increase their bet at the end of shoe to an astronomical bet, they are counting cards, by the way I count too while I am dealing, not that hard to do. Freezing fly boy, guess what I teach at the same school you used to teach at, and no I dont need mydol, my wife takes enough. I can tell however that you are the type of bi##h that I have grown to dispise in this industry. Get off you express jet kick, anyone can get a job there, dont try to bring the fedex guys into this, you will never get a sniff at that./

freezingflyboy 12-08-2006 10:24 PM

Hah, whatever buddy. Good for you. Where do you deal at? Southgate? Down Under? The truckstop? I guess all of those are promising careers...:rolleyes: Then you can keep instructing on the side so you can tell all the girls that youre a pilot. That goes over real well at UND, haha. If I came off as arogant I guess its because I'm just not sure why you started this thread? Did you want a pat on the back or something? GO SIOUX!!!

PS
What kind of b!tc# is it that you dispise in this industry?

Flymau5 05-16-2012 03:47 PM

So what is Dan R. up to now? :o

Trip7 05-16-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Flymau5 (Post 1189733)
So what is Dan R. up to now? :o

Hiring ExpressJet pilots


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