RAH commuting question (RW & S5 certificates)
 

Hi there, I've just been offered a job with Republic. I'm looking at either the Shuttle America or Republic E170 sides. My wife is Irish and she's just been offered a great job over there starting next year. How easy is it to get something similar to a 4 on 4 off schedule AFTER reserve? I realize that during reserve commuting is nearly impossible.

You're trying to commute from ireland?? You're insane. At this company, scheduling will work very little with you and you will not get 4on 4off. You're schedule will look very little like your bid. I've bid to WORK weekends. and be off tues-thurs. My June schedule is the opposite, yet there are open time trips that would match my schedule. Not to mention your entire pay will go towards taxes on the commute....

4 on 4 off after reserve isn't too hard too get. It's usually what junior people get anyways. Commuting from Ireland is kind of extreme..won't be home that much.

Once I got a line I usually got a 4 on 3 off sked. I know a FA who commutes fron Italy but she is super senior. Commuting from Ireland will get old very quickly. Im a phl fo and movement right now is slow so reserve is a 6 month occupation- that could change though. Hope this gives u some insight- keep asking to get a more clear picture. Too bad Aer Lingus only hires 0 hour pilots out of highschool. Good luck man.

Good luck with your divorce

^^^ very constructive:rolleyes:

Probably true though.

Unless you get based in a hub like DCA or PHL on the YX (RW) side, you will not get anything commutable. With a commute to Ireland, PHL is really your only option unless you commute through IAD if DCA based. Looking at Passrider.com there is only one flight a day to DUB out of PHL and IAD so that makes the commute near impossible. The flights are in the morning after most of our trips start and way before you are released. So you will commute in the day before and out the day after. You will probably be lucky to get home once a month with usually no more than 3 days off in a row and will more than likely have to do a several leg commute. Also, I don't believe we have Zed's with Aer Lingus right now so IAD isn't an option. You can double or triple leg it through EWR, JFK, ORD or ATL to give you more options but that is even worse. Only JFK has more than one flight a day (3).

I could see how a part time FA could do it but not any way a Pilot at YX could. Maybe on the S5 side out of LGA by going through JFK or EWR. The Q could be an option as well out of EWR.

I know it's not what you want to hear but do something else. This kind of commute will put a heavy, heavy strain on your marriage. Not worth it in my book.

No way is this realistic on any RAH certificate on reserve.

This is what I feared. My father in law is an Aer Lingus captain so I have unlimited passes on them too. Getting to work isn't the problem, I'm more concerned about whether I could build a schedule that will make it work once I hold a line. Sounds like that wont be the case.

Definitely not here or any regional for that matter once the new rest rules kick in. Schedules will become less productive and as a result everyone will work more days. Can't wait for min days off schedules to begin in January 2014. At least I hope the outstation bases go the way of the Dodo.

Lets be realistic here. You only have 3 options that will work over the long term.

1. You take the job and the wife gives hers up and lives in the US with you.

2. You take the job and divorce her.

3. You don't take the job.

God, why do people make their lives so hard. Commute internationally, on reserve, for a regional; is that steaming trifecta of Not Good or what?

GF

And why can people on the Internet not read properly?! I said I have no intention of commuting to reserve.

I have a couple of friends at other companies who commute internationally and make it work. One at Eagle who commutes from Bogota, Columbia and one at ExpressJet who commutes from Stockholm in Sweden, both of them have made it work for many years and both are happily married. Republic obviously doesn't have as much to offer in terms of scheduling. I'll have to hope that I get on with ExpressJet instead when I interview with them next week.

Ealge and ExpressJet contract is better than RAH. I hope the best for you...

Commuting to/fr Ireland takes its toll. I had to virtually do it for 2 months due to family issues - it was only possible because of generous scheduling and creative trading. Getting into Ireland is the hardest because you have one maybe 2 flights out of multiple US airports so you have to pick which one will most likely get you over there. Having the Aer Lingus bennies makes it way less complicated, that makes 3 flights a day out of JFK to DUB. (2 EI 1 DL)
Heading out of Dublin is easier since there are about 10 flights that run out of there starting at 8 am and spaced out with an hour or two between each flight so you can work the line. I have always gotten a seat on the days I travelled but it takes a lot out of you (16 hrs door to door for me to get to Boston).If lucky you would be in Ireland for 2 full days out of 4.

Since you wife's father works there - why not move there, get you EASA license and get on with Shamrock. Then you will be home every night....way better QOL!!!!

Shamrock wont take you unless yur in their cadet program or have a type and time in the A330. Fact check me on that but its difficult even with a family connection.

Different regionals only mean different problems. Pdt has a bettr contract than Rah but Rah is an bettr place and it sets you up for the majors which prefer glass jet time. I left pdt for rah and so did many senior to me- no regrets for any of us. Definately explore all regionals before committing though. Good luck bro.

Is that so? Interesting you say that considering I recall about 3 or 4 PDT guys that interviewed at Airways around the same time I did. Funny that they got the offer and me with all my awesome "preferred glass jet time" got the thanks but no thanks. I'm sorry man, but that is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard!

Were they capts? Did you interview well? Theres alot of parameters- what Im saying is that Id rather have the jet time on my resume bro. About u not getting hired- Sucks for you... Oh and Airways has to have a certain percentage of pdt or psa guys in their class now. Still sound that absurd- Pay attention to the entire thread entry.

People on the internet that can read properly would have nothing to do with RAH:)

Should it matter if they were captains or not? Remember "glass jet time preferred" is what counts. Did I interview well? I have interviewed at other places recently so I was not rusty and hired professional interview consultation. Yeah I think I held my own for the most part.

And as far as a certain percentage goes, well there ya have it... Those guys flying that trashy turbo prop that you felt was going to be harmful to your career actually benefited them more so than a guy with "preferred jet glass time". As far as I know we could have all interviewed well and had similar experiences on the resume, but because they were PDT maybe that was what boosted them into the limited spots over me? So yeah man... it sure does sound pretty absurd. But what ever man... you will be one of 20,000 or so other guys with glass jet time. Congrats on becoming so unique and well rounded on your resume. United and Delta will surely be knocking your door down in no time.

I already have something and thanx for the congradulations. Try to watch the negative attitude bro- all the interview coaching in the world wont hide than underlying sense of entitlement and anger. By your tone it sounds as though the pdt guys have other assets that you dont possess. Sorry for your troubles and try some humility.

So because I disagree with you and have pointed out errors in your opinion I have a negative attitude and sense of entitlement? Awesome defense mechanism "bro"! Anyways I have given my respect for turbo prop guys that are able to nail a job at a legacy, while being up against your highly regarded jet glass time guys and they were the better candidate. Because I have basically said I was the weaker of the candidates and challenged you, I have some serious anger and entitlement issues? You sure you don't want to give stand up comedy a shot?

Yes you have anger and entitlement issues. You dont need interview consultation just attitude adjustment. Stay positive bro. And sincerely -good luck-we all need it.

As much as I don't recommend any Republic certificate, I'll chime in here:

If the expected movement and growth comes to fruition (AA 175 flying), you'll be able to end up with something that's reasonably commutable probably within a year. The problem lies within RJET's schedules. The company builds trips that start very early and end very late. It'll be difficult for you to commute on anything other than a day off.

Also, senior FOs will bid the hubs with better schedules, and you'll most likely end up in an outstation for at least a few months after training, which won't dovetail well with your desires. Keep in mind, however, that barring the loss of the Q flying and/or a massive reduction in CHQ 50-seat flying, the term "senior FO" just might become a bit of an oxymoron.

Expressjet is hiring like crazy and experiencing some pretty high attrition, according to one of their FOs that I spoke with on a DH yesterday. I'd recommend checking on them.

Also, Shuttle LGA has a few openings in the current vacancy posting, and Aer Lingus FAs DH on the Delta Shuttle from LGA to BOS, and then continue on to Ireland (Dublin, if I remember correctly)....that may be something that you may want to look into.

Good luck, regardless of your choice.

Thanks for the diagnosis, but honestly maybe after a few beers when we both get REA sometime this summer and you still come to that conclusion I would take it to heart, but for now I will just laugh and say thanks for the concern and the best wishes.

[QUOTE=SUX4U;1415334]Thanks for the diagnosis, but honestly maybe after a few beers when we both get REA sometime this summer and you still come to that conclusion I would take it to heart, but for now I will just laugh and say thanks for the concern and the best wishes.[/QUOte/]

Fair enough man- Its a frustrating industry that has treated pilots poorly for decades and spawns a ton of emotions. I do wish you the best and it prob gets bettr for all of us eventually. Good luck and I take back what I said as I dont know you at all. Peace

Thanks Bozo! I fully agree with you. Have to say I was pleasantly surprised to see your response. Beers on me when we likely run into each other on pairing Z this month! Cheers!