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Al Czervik 05-24-2013 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by ross9238 (Post 1415251)
Yep...what do you do if you don't have a smartphone?

Turn in the old phone along with your parachute pants and get one.

80ktsClamp 05-24-2013 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1415267)
Turn in the old phone along with your parachute pants and get one.

Don't be dissing his jitterbug.

http://easylivingprogram.vestaforyou...cell_phone.jpg

Snarge 05-24-2013 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by ross9238 (Post 1415251)
Yep...what do you do if you don't have a smartphone?

Do what we've done for the past 80 years.... walk to the terminal and check .... the smartphone was the alternative to the original premise...
If you were an adult before the commonality of the smartphone... what did you do?

I'll take more questions but none at this level.... next?

ross9238 05-24-2013 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1415275)

That's right :D

mking84 05-24-2013 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by TBucket (Post 1414789)
Just because it "happens all the time" doesn't mean it's right. There's no excuse for leaving with empty seats if there are fellow crewmembers trying to get on.

Did they know you were there? Maybe they had a time to make getting out of DCA up to EWR? You do realize that flight is really time sensitive correct? Did you stand in the window and try to get their attention? Im just not seeing how you can blame our crews for your misfortune, you go on as far to imply that it was their fault for being late. If you REALLY are a non-rev then I would think you'd have some experience, but maybe you are one of those entitled non-revs who feels that they are everybody's #1 priority and entitled to a seat on every flight.

krisma 05-24-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 1415351)
Did they know you were there? Maybe they had a time to make getting out of DCA up to EWR? You do realize that flight is really time sensitive correct? Did you stand in the window and try to get their attention? Im just not seeing how you can blame our crews for your misfortune, you go on as far to imply that it was their fault for being late. If you REALLY are a non-rev then I would think you'd have some experience, but maybe you are one of those entitled non-revs who feels that they are everybody's #1 priority and entitled to a seat on every flight.

@ mking84, how about you read the WHOLE thread and not just page one and then skip to the end. Do you do the same with your contract, read the cover page then skip straight to compensation?



Originally Posted by NoLightOff (Post 1414930)
Yes. Captain knew. He came up looking for the gate agent that was MIA for a while because he wanted the door closed and we talked to him. That's the tough part to look past. It is what it is. No hard feelings. I couldn't do what he did but maybe he has his reasons.


atdhockey 05-25-2013 03:22 PM

gotta be the exception i commute and i go outta my way to get people on including moving bags in the back or whatever i gotta do. the same has been done for me across everyone ive ever flown on including mainline

Sniper 05-27-2013 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 1415154)
At AE (and therefore AA, I imagine), we do not have the authority to force a gate agent to board anybody. The company has made it very clear that not only will the gate agent win the battle, but we will be held accountable by the chief pilot's office if we attempt that battle and cause a flight to be late. Written up. Letter put into your file, etc.

. . . Commuting can be perilous sometimes. It is what it is.

It is what it is - and what it is is voluntarily allowing PIC authority to be undermined.

Try this next time:


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1368726)
I flew with a Captain along time ago who never, I mean never, got upset/angry at any one. In DFW one time there were pax waving at us from the terminal when the agent came down to close the door. The Captain asked him to go get those pax and put them on. The agent refused and said "This is my airplane at the gate and I'm closing the door." Very calmly the Captain said okay. The agent closed the door and pulled the jetway away. The Captain then opened his window and very calmly said "Now it's my airplane and we aren't moving until you put those people on." The agent finally saw the error of his ways and put the people on. I told the Capt. I'd have been PO'd and he said "Why bother getting angry when you KNOW you're going to win!"

As a Captain, I've tried to live by that philosophy. But sometimes it is difficult! :D

Denny

If every AE Captain lives by this philosophy too, commuting might be more pleasant, and less 'perilous'. So might your Chief Pilot's office.

Rnav 05-27-2013 11:55 AM

Isn't having things like this just part of the job? Commuting has its dangers and this is one of them. Just part of paying your dues or the job in my opinion. Getting screwed by the gate agent and other crews is what happens when you have an industry that puts more priority on what the customers want than whats good for the crews. So if you don't like it, find another job where you don't have to worry bout getting hosed trying to get home.

B200 Hawk 05-27-2013 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rnav (Post 1416606)
Isn't having things like this just part of the job? Commuting has its dangers and this is one of them. Just part of paying your dues or the job in my opinion. Getting screwed by the gate agent and other crews is what happens when you have an industry that puts more priority on what the customers want than whats good for the crews. So if you don't like it, find another job where you don't have to worry bout getting hosed trying to get home.

I would say getting left behind commuting due to a full flight or a weight restriction is a danger of commuting. Not showing up to a flight with 9 open seats and getting stuck.


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