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Airway 06-05-2013 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1422704)
Now, all that said. I do regret my choice of words in that one sentence. Not because of anything you or ShyGuy have said, but because some real-life friends who I respect have called me out on it. A far better wording would have been "The autopilot and autothrottles are unusually smooth and precise, relieving the pilots' workload in busy moments and freeing them to perform the most important function in any cockpit, the one task that no avionics package yet devised can do for them: think."

Boy, that would have been a great line! But hey, that sort of thing happens all the time.

A little off topic but, I never liked the word Autopilot. It's a heavy word that's totally inaccurate, and I wish it were called something else. We don't call cruise control "auto-driver," nor do we call LASIK "auto-surgery". But for some reason, this combination of computers, cables, and wires that acts under the absolute control of a professional has been dubbed autopilot. It paints a completely false picture. If it really were an auto-pilot, it would require intelligence and the ability to think, plan, and judge. No amount of engineering can manufacture judgment.

Sam, you have a huge opportunity to, using written words, address millions of people about what we do as professional pilots, and to break down generalizations and misconceptions. It's an opportunity a lot of us wish we could have, but also a responsibility most of us wouldn't want. I hope you have a lot of success, but all I can ask is that you represent us well.

String682 06-05-2013 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1422619)
Not even that great mustache saved him that day.

All these pokes at Les and this is the only mustache joke? Les should win the award for best 80's era mustache, pushing Tom Selleck back to 2nd place.

MrMustache 06-05-2013 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1422685)
Yes, I did read the entire article.

The greatest tragedy in this is that most of what you wrote was good. However, you sunk the entire ship with the autopilot bit.

I'm a very laid back person and never get worked up over anything. This issue happens to be the one that gets me angry every time. It is my kryptonite.

You know (or should know) that the general public thinks all we do up there is press a "take-off" and "land" button while taking naps and talking about the FA's ass. Comments such as yours not only throws gasoline on the fire, it dumps an entire fuel drum on it.

As Airways mentioned, the readers of these publications vary but for the most part they are not airline pilots. They are going to take whatever you (an airline pilot) says to heart. When you put yourself out there you have a responsibility to our profession not to demean all of us in one swoop.

If we are not pilots who fly the aircraft then what are we? It may seem like a trivial issue to you...and it is clear to everyone that it is. But you are missing the big picture. We are pilots who fly aircraft. That is not something any monkey out there can do. If you think so then you have no business being in this profession.

With that said, you can't represent us to the general non-flying public as simply system monitors who can't fly the plane any better than the autopilot. I don't take issue with any other aspect of your article and couldn't care less if/when you will flow, if you have been furloughed, or any of that.

If you want to try your hand at stand-up comedy and self-deprecating humor then sign up for an open mic night at your local comedy club. An article such as yours in a publication as widely read as FLYING isn't the place for it. Especially if your idea of self-deprecating humor is reducing all airline pilots down to over-paid, under-worked people who don't really fly the plane.

O no you didnnn't! You know what they say...

Bucking Bar 06-05-2013 05:02 PM

I read the article and wondered where I could find a job in a modern jet eating a crew meal on a CONUS leg.

JungleBus 06-05-2013 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1422883)
I read the article and wondered where I could find a job in a modern jet eating a crew meal on a CONUS leg.

Ask DALPA. They outsourced it. Actually, I guess NW-ALPA did. DALPA merely agreed to continue it, fought against any attempts to reverse it, expanded it once with a LOA, and expanded it again with a TA.

paxhauler85 06-05-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1422883)
I read the article and wondered where I could find a job in a modern jet eating a crew meal on a CONUS leg.

Good one, bud. Typical Delta - complain to someone who can do nothing about something that they changed/allowed themselves.

Want to trade? You can have my modern jet and crew meal, I'd prefer to have your contract and job security.

Do you think we actually cruise around grinning about that kind of stuff? Most of us spend the entire flight talking and thinking about our next job and how quickly we can get it.

JungleBus 06-05-2013 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by paxhauler85 (Post 1422913)
Good one, bud. Typical Delta - complain to someone who can do nothing about something that they changed/allowed themselves.

Want to trade? You can have my modern jet and crew meal, I'd prefer to have your contract and job security.

Do you think we actually cruise around grinning about that kind of stuff? Most of us spend the entire flight talking and thinking about our next job and how quickly we can get it.

Despite my snarky answer above, Bucking Bar is one of the fiercest scope hawks at Delta. He gets it, and regularly writes insightful posts on the subject on the L&G thread.

ShyGuy 06-05-2013 07:23 PM

Yeah that was surprising, you get full crew meals at Compass? Training for mainline I tell ya! :P

JungleBus 06-06-2013 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1422986)
Yeah that was surprising, you get full crew meals at Compass? Training for mainline I tell ya! :P

Long days with no scheduled breaks > 45 minutes, we contractually get them. Other times it's just leftover first class meals, if there are any. Our contract was negotiated by NW-ALPA and was based on their bankruptcy contract, they may have just pasted over the crew meal language.

MrMustache 06-06-2013 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1422986)
Yeah that was surprising, you get full crew meals at Compass? Training for mainline I tell ya! :P

Don't you hipsters get Sushi or something? Lots of regionals get crew meals on certain flights. For being as educated as you claim, you sure don't know a whole lot.


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