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RJ Pilot 06-14-2013 03:39 PM

More AE MEC NDA
 
Yup, you guessed it. Meetings between the new AA management and AE Alpa went on yesterday. All NDA. Expect:

Pinnuckle pay rates.
New and improved fleet plan! Around 60 or so NEW PLANES!
Playball or Eagle will be gone ala Comair.

Maybe its time to bail!

More coming next week.

What 06-14-2013 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1428472)
Yup, you guessed it. Meetings between the new AA management and AE Alpa went on yesterday. All NDA. Expect:

Pinnuckle pay rates.
New and improved fleet plan! Around 60 or so NEW PLANES!
Playball or Eagle will be gone ala Comair.

Maybe its time to bail!

More coming next week.

Actually the meetings happened on Tuesday. And the rest is just pure speculation but we already know that they would love to Pinnacle pay rates and that we will be threatened to go out like Comair. But actually that would work out good for you RJ. Comair grew after it ****ed Delta off and it took 10 years to get shut down.

CRM114 06-14-2013 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1428472)
Pinnuckle pay rates.
New and improved fleet plan! Around 60 or so NEW PLANES!
Playball or Eagle will be gone ala Comair.

Maybe its time to bail!

More coming next week.

Since you're making stuff up, let me add:


The Eagle CFI pipline program isn't to designed to replace pilots due to attrition. Instead, it's to provide scabs for when the Eagle MEC doesn't agree to the best, last, final offer from Doug and the boys.

Wow, that making stuff up is easy! :p

seafeye 06-14-2013 05:20 PM

I heard that PSA/PDT and Eagle will be merging. And that PSA's President will take over. Albeit only for a short time till he retires.

New or more airplanes at a wholly own will not happen.
Don't fall for it. It will not happen.

magnus0322 06-14-2013 05:48 PM

BB the Republic CEO sent out a letter to employees today where he expressed his views regarding the regional industry. In the letter he said he believes that either Pinnacle or Eagle will be purchased by Republic, SkyWest, Mesa, or TSH. Wouldn't that be something.

What 06-14-2013 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1428518)
BB the Republic CEO sent out a letter to employees today where he expressed his views regarding the regional industry. In the letter he said he believes that either Pinnacle or Eagle will be purchased by Republic, SkyWest, Mesa, or TSH. Wouldn't that be something.

Well that narrows it down. One of the wholly owned regional being bought by one of the large regionals.

ShyGuy 06-14-2013 11:18 PM

Who would Endeavor to buy Pinnacle?

magnus0322 06-15-2013 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy:1428681
Who would Endeavor to buy Pinnacle?

3:18 am on a Friday night. Dude just give it a rest, walk away. You moved on to mainline, stop being such a douchebag.

eaglefly 06-15-2013 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1428472)
Yup, you guessed it. Meetings between the new AA management and AE Alpa went on yesterday. All NDA. Expect:

Pinnuckle pay rates.
New and improved fleet plan! Around 60 or so NEW PLANES!
Playball or Eagle will be gone ala Comair.

Maybe its time to bail!

More coming next week.

Bail ?

I thought you said you were going to ride the puppy all the way to impact with the GPWS screaming "TERRAIN......TERRAIN !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP......PULL UP !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP...... PULL UP !!!" ?

What 06-15-2013 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1428700)
Bail ?

I thought you said you were going to ride the puppy all the way to impact with the GPWS screaming "TERRAIN......TERRAIN !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP......PULL UP !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP...... PULL UP !!!" ?

As long as the check clears is what he says. I think he means bail for the junior guys. You know the whole end of the world thing.

Palmtree Pilot 06-15-2013 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1428698)
3:18 am on a Friday night. Dude just give it a rest, walk away. You moved on to mainline, stop being such a douchebag.

They let you fly airplanes even though you don't know am is morning?!:D;)


P.S. Eagle is DOOOOOOMED!

johnso29 06-15-2013 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1428518)
BB the Republic CEO sent out a letter to employees today where he expressed his views regarding the regional industry. In the letter he said he believes that either Pinnacle or Eagle will be purchased by Republic, SkyWest, Mesa, or TSH. Wouldn't that be something.

We all saw how well buying other regionals went for Pinnacle. BB is back pedaling from his Frontier/Midwest disaster. Skywest aquiring XE and ASA hasn't been the smoothest either.

flysooner9 06-15-2013 08:11 AM

The sky is falling!!

RJ Pilot 06-15-2013 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1428700)
Bail ?

I thought you said you were going to ride the puppy all the way to impact with the GPWS screaming "TERRAIN......TERRAIN !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP......PULL UP !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP...... PULL UP !!!" ?

I still stand by my comments. I will ride it till the end. Lets see, Eagle or the soon to be low cost carrier AA?

PilotJ3 06-15-2013 10:07 AM



Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1428700)
Bail ?

I thought you said you were going to ride the puppy all the way to impact with the GPWS screaming "TERRAIN......TERRAIN !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP......PULL UP !!!, WHOOP-WHOOP...... PULL UP !!!" ?

I still stand by my comments. I will ride it till the end. Lets see, Eagle or the soon to be low cost carrier AA?
Just flow, if not you will get pay freeze, PBS, paycut in 2016.

It's your decision. ;)

embraer 06-15-2013 10:30 AM

Oh look. Another RJ Pilot thread!

His last one went so well. You know...the one where he swore he had "confirmed" sources which wasn't Eagle Lounge. Only for later that day we all find out in fact that rumor only existed on Eagle Lounge and had no basis on reality.

MrMustache 06-15-2013 11:01 AM

Not gonna lie it would be hilarious if TSH bought 9E and merged them woth Gojet, one big cheap happy family. You think Colgan had career expectations?

Slats 06-15-2013 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by MrMustache (Post 1428859)
Not gonna lie it would be hilarious if TSH bought 9E and merged them woth Gojet, one big cheap happy family. You think Colgan had career expectations?

Wait, wait, TSH buys Pinnacle merges with GoHo's and spins them off to Republic who then parks the airplanes and pref hires them all into the Q400. Staffing issues solved!

ShyGuy 06-15-2013 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1428864)
Wait, wait, TSH buys Pinnacle merges with GoHo's and spins them off to Republic who then parks the airplanes and pref hires them all into the Q400. Staffing issues solved!

Yup. ALPA has no real merger policy, always reverting to binding arbitration so they can just walk away with their hands clean. At the end of that merger, arbitrator Bloch gets hired again, paids thousands of dollars, and he will hand down another screw job of a seniority list integration. Rinse, repeat.

Pilots shouldn't have binding arbitration. It should be a SDSTFUAWIO policy.... Sit Down, Shut the **** Up, and Work It Out policy. It doesn't matter who is trying to screw who. No one should be merged until both groups decide to mutually agree to something for SLI purposes. Far too many egos, far too many "well, we had career expecations on the Qs!" or "hey, we are bringing the heavy whale to this merger, they only have 777s!" I guarantee a list would eventually come out. Management can add the enticing factor. For example, Colgan getting its planes parked. Once that is known, you can bet their committee would quickly shut up about a relative merger and then beg for anything, even DOH. So to summarize, let pilots work it out. If they are still slow with no end solution, then let the individual airline plans materialize (which means some airlines park planes or gain planes). Either way, as separate airlines, the pilots will come to some sort of terms real soon otherwise be screwed.

JustAMushroom 06-15-2013 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by magnus0322 (Post 1428518)
BB the Republic CEO sent out a letter to employees today where he expressed his views regarding the regional industry. In the letter he said he believes that either Pinnacle or Eagle will be purchased by Republic, SkyWest, Mesa, or TSH. Wouldn't that be something.

Leaders at SkyWest have said publicly that they would not buy another regional. CoEx purchase was a mistake and they'd rather grow "organically". At least that's what I heard from a hotel van driver.

I personally think SkyWest wants to grow AA feed aggressively.

RJ Pilot 06-18-2013 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1428848)
Oh look. Another RJ Pilot thread!

His last one went so well. You know...the one where he swore he had "confirmed" sources which wasn't Eagle Lounge. Only for later that day we all find out in fact that rumor only existed on Eagle Lounge and had no basis on reality.

I suggest you get your facts straight junior. I read the proposal myself.


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