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Bozo the pilot 06-21-2013 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by PeopleMover90 (Post 1432295)
Gotta agree with that. Nothing beats making a decent living, a line with 14-18 days off, 90+ hours of credit not even counting an open time trip paid at a premium, know my schedule, and have off days strung from 1-10+ days in a row, however I want to bid and trade my stuff around.

Sure, wont happen out of IOE, but depending on the carrier it wont be long after. And being able to kick back at FL410 at 500 kts.... makes you forget that maybe you made the same amount sweating in a Cessna with a student who's mommy and daddy thinks would make a great pilot and future APC troll. (insert sarcasm there)

Yea id rather work at republic rather than instruct...oh wait I do.:eek:

Ultralight 06-21-2013 05:30 PM

My point to this thread is that there are other options out there. If your objective is to get to the majors ASAP, a regional might not necessarily be the quickest way. Sure, most major pilots come from the regionals, but there are alternatives for those who think outside the box.

If I were to start out all over again I might have done things differently.

wiz5422 06-21-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432196)
So we already know that some senior guys at the regionals have the golden handcuffs and can't / won't take the first year pay cut to move on to the majors.
We are now starting to see more flight schools offer pay which far exceeds the regional's year one pay. How many instructors are willing to take a $10,000 pay cut to sit reserve in ORD?

This add form the orange web site.

"CFI in Pensacola FL. Preference will be given to CFII but will consider all applicants. Salary $32,000."

What a tool! Have you ever heard of someone going from instructing in a 172 to flying for Delta? You have to start out somewhere to make the big bucks. That is like staying in the Farm leagues instead of going to the majors just because you don't want to sit on the bench for a few games.

Ultralight 06-21-2013 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1432329)
What a tool! Have you ever heard of someone going from instructing in a 172 to flying for Delta? You have to start out somewhere to make the big bucks. That is like staying in the Farm leagues instead of going to the majors just because you don't want to sit on the bench for a few games.

What a tool? Why don't you pull your head out of your fart pipe and look at your options. Instructor to freight to charter to majors within 5 years. Yes its possible and it would be more lucrative.

TallFlyer 06-21-2013 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432328)
My point to this thread is that there are other options out there. If your objective is to get to the majors ASAP, a regional might not necessarily be the quickest way. Sure, most major pilots come from the regionals, but there are alternatives for those who think outside the box.

If I were to start out all over again I might have done things differently.

Having done a lot of "outside the box" in my career I'm ready for a schedule and time off. The grass is always greener, etc.

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1432329)
What a tool! Have you ever heard of someone going from instructing in a 172 to flying for Delta? You have to start out somewhere to make the big bucks. That is like staying in the Farm leagues instead of going to the majors just because you don't want to sit on the bench for a few games.

While you have a decent point it was kinda overshadowed by your trip back to middle school. Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432332)
What a tool? Why don't you pull your head out of your fart pipe and look at your options. Instructor to freight to charter to majors within 5 years. Yes its possible and it would be more lucrative.

Your mom said hi by the way!

Yes, it's possible, but probable? Lots of 135 and 91 guys out there who have given up on that scene to go do 121 to either improve their resume or just have a life.

And while it "could" be more lucrative, it could also be the 7th circle of hell. Think there's bad regionals out there? There are far more bad charter outfits. Grass is always greener, etc.

Oh, and way to stoop to his level. Good save.

Ultralight 06-21-2013 05:57 PM

I find it amusing that so many guys come on here complaining about their life at the regionals, then when someone offers a possible alternative they get called a tool.
amazing.

TallFlyer 06-21-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432350)
I find it amusing that so many guys come on here complaining about their life at the regionals, then when someone offers a possible alternative they get called a tool.
amazing.

And all I'm saying is I've done the alternative and I'd rather the regionals where at least we have the time off and flexibility to complain about the regionals. :D

PeopleMover90 06-21-2013 06:11 PM

while money cant buy happiness, i'd rather be crying in an air conditioned jet in august.....

AcesHigh 06-21-2013 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432350)
I find it amusing that so many guys come on here complaining about their life at the regionals, then when someone offers a possible alternative they get called a tool.
amazing.


So many guys here complaining on APC you sound worse than females... I don't write on here often, I'd rather just be on the outside looking in. SOS day in and day out on the forums..

Got a problem? Make change... Don't take no for an answer. Go to your union representatives. Instead of you complaining that your back is against the wall, do what needs to be done to have these higher up's realize what their doing is wrong and actually effecting YOU the "working" people and blood lifeline to the company.

And I know what a lot of you are saying, "easier said than done" Well just like you having to start from the bottom to get to where you want to be, you gotta start somewhere. Quit the whining man up, and do something about the situation.I swear my 6 year old niece doesn't complain as much as some of the people on here do.

Airlinewisdom 06-21-2013 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ultralight (Post 1432196)
So we already know that some senior guys at the regionals have the golden handcuffs and can't / won't take the first year pay cut to move on to the majors.
We are now starting to see more flight schools offer pay which far exceeds the regional's year one pay. How many instructors are willing to take a $10,000 pay cut to sit reserve in ORD?

This add form the orange web site.

"CFI in Pensacola FL. Preference will be given to CFII but will consider all applicants. Salary $32,000."

I hope the CFIs are smart enough to look beyond next year to figure out where they will be in 5 or 10 years if they stay a CFI vs going to a regional. Do your home work. Virtually every regional pilot who has a good work history and clean training record will get hired by the majors. Compare the average days off and career pay of a major, or regional, pilot to that of a career CFI and you have your answer.


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