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Help for a friend XJT to AE
I have a buddy of mine thats been hemming and hawing with an opportunity to do a semi lateral move from L-XJT to AE. He'd be sacrificing 2 years of seniority, but has the chance to be home based. He also is encouraged by the opportunity for movement at AE due to the flow throughs, which is otherwise non existent at L-XJT. Oh and Ipads.
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I think most AE guys would tell you that the flow through isn't a great deal, especially for the guys at the bottom. Even with a consistent flow, someone hired now at Eagle would flow up in ~8 years. You would have better odds going somewhere else and being a street hire at AA. This according to a friend of mine who is a senior FO.
I've noticed a lot of the CAs I fly with who have bounced from regional to regional are now in their 40s and stuck. My opinion is that the best route to the majors is to stick it out at one place, for better or worse. That's not even considering the superior contract at XJT. |
I think he might want to stay put or move up not sideways. We are losing guys every month here and I would suggest him putting his efforts into a place like Spirit, Virgin, Jetblue, or a cargo carrier. They are taking a couple of our fo's every month. If he gets stuck at xjt the upgrade time for him wont be the 7+ years it is right now due to the lack of hiring we did from mid 07-10. Also a lot of the fo's ahead of him will be looking for a way out as well as the captains. Both regionals could lose a large chunk of their flying over night so the risk is pretty much the same no matter the regional he is at.
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Tell him to stay where he is. Ipads? You gotta buy your own.
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He'd be super stupid if he DIDN'T take the job at AE. Just check out United scope.
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
(Post 1438620)
He'd be super stupid if he DIDN'T take the job at AE. Just check out United scope.
There are no safe havens right now. |
if he can live in base he should make the move.
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Originally Posted by Oskeewowow
(Post 1438596)
I think most AE guys would tell you that the flow through isn't a great deal, especially for the guys at the bottom. Even with a consistent flow, someone hired now at Eagle would flow up in ~8 years. You would have better odds going somewhere else and being a street hire at AA. This according to a friend of mine who is a senior FO.
I've noticed a lot of the CAs I fly with who have bounced from regional to regional are now in their 40s and stuck. My opinion is that the best route to the majors is to stick it out at one place, for better or worse. That's not even considering the superior contract at XJT. So have all of the 1999 hires at AE flowed thru yet?? |
If this is inaforeignsky, tell him to stay put!
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No. I'm a 1991 hire and I'm headed over in a few months. '99 hires are probably 1-2 years away still.
I'm guessing you knew that though. You ARE trolling on the RJ boards, aren't you? |
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
(Post 1438839)
No. I'm a 1991 hire and I'm headed over in a few months. '99 hires are probably 1-2 years away still.
I'm guessing you knew that though. You ARE trolling on the RJ boards, aren't you? ??? Not sure what you mean that I would know that, how, I am a CAL guy. So that is good, I did not know that people were still flowing to AA. I thought that they had not hired for a while now. So I guess all of those 1988-1990 hired pilots that I flew with on the ATR in ORD have flowed? Is Rich Barthelmas, Frank Alvarez or Keith Allison still around? |
Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
(Post 1438839)
No. I'm a 1991 hire and I'm headed over in a few months. '99 hires are probably 1-2 years away still
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Frank still here, Rich is gone, I think Keith is a lifer. Great guys, all.
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
(Post 1439447)
Frank still here, Rich is gone, I think Keith is a lifer. Great guys, all.
Do you happen to know if Harry Miller is still around? He was originally Wings West, before they became a part of Eagle... |
How about Conn McCarthy and Steve Price?
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Never heard of Harry M or Steve P, Conn is still here but will be going to The Dark Side shortly (if they ever get through the "undefers").
Conn is on FB if you're interested. |
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