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Old 08-31-2013, 04:45 PM
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For the past two years all of the regionals have been giving pic types when the FO's go thru recurrent. If you don't have a pic type now your not legal
Not true - if you have an ATP before August 1st or whatever and you are already on property you have 2 yrs to get it. All new hires post rule change have to have ATP/Type combo tho.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:07 PM
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Only an issue if new to the 121 world or moving to a new airline, then SIC's will need a PIC type rating.
So if I have a class that begins sept then the 121 that just hired me will type me? Thanx for the info- Ive heard conflicting opinions about the pic type req.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
So if I have a class that begins sept then the 121 that just hired me will type me? Thanx for the info- Ive heard conflicting opinions about the pic type req.
Yes your new airline should give you a PIC type since you were not with them flying as an SIC in August when the rule went into effect.
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OB Pilot View Post
Yes your new airline should give you a PIC type since you were not with them flying as an SIC in August when the rule went into effect.
Thanx for the info
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Old 09-01-2013, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline View Post
For the past two years all of the regionals have been giving pic types when the FO's go thru recurrent. If you don't have a pic type now your not legal
Reading comprehension!?!?!?
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:28 AM
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This raises an interesting conundrum for less desirable U.S. airlines. Joe Pilot can get hired at XYZ Lousy Airline, go through new hire training and then walk with a PIC type. While not for everyone, foreign carriers usually require a type for their more lucrative expat jobs. Seems like an easy way to get a free type and then bail.

Additionally does this mean SWA will drop the type rating requirement? What are the ramifications then to the various type rating schools around the country? I can't see anyone buying a 737 type rating again.

There's always fallout when the feds change a regulation.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco View Post
This raises an interesting conundrum for less desirable U.S. airlines. Joe Pilot can get hired at XYZ Lousy Airline, go through new hire training and then walk with a PIC type. While not for everyone, foreign carriers usually require a type for their more lucrative expat jobs. Seems like an easy way to get a free type and then bail.
That's why you are seeing more and more training contracts at the regionals. Requiring you to pay $$$ if you leave
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:58 AM
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That's why you are seeing more and more training contracts at the regionals. Requiring you to pay $$$ if you leave
Show me one training contract that has been enforced.
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Originally Posted by Goodspeed View Post
That's why you are seeing more and more training contracts at the regionals. Requiring you to pay $$$ if you leave
Makes sense but what if everyone collectively said no to training contracts? Do you think the regionals would just stop hiring? With 19,000 age 65 retirements coming in the next 9 years my guess is no, they won't stop hiring.
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Old 09-01-2013, 04:17 PM
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Most, if not all, will require 500 or more hours PIC (P1) time as well. An "empty" type rating is worthless overseas in most cases.

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This raises an interesting conundrum for less desirable U.S. airlines. Joe Pilot can get hired at XYZ Lousy Airline, go t
hrough new hire training and then walk with a PIC type. While not for everyone, foreign carriers usually require a type for their more lucrative expat jobs. Seems like an easy way to get a free type
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