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careerpilot 12-06-2006 01:32 PM

If you meet American Eagle mins and were sent the denial message plz read this.
 
If you meet mins and have a clean history and were sent the message stating you don't meet the competitive mins Claudette Carroll wants you to call her to discuss your qualifcations. Her number is 817-963-1064. I have alerted her to your posts staing that you meet the mins and are being denied. It may be a glitch with Airlineapps.com and she would like to know about it. This will help you get an interview if you do indeed meet the mins and have a clean history. PM me if this helps.

careerpilot 12-06-2006 08:50 PM

Tons of people piped in that they were turned down with qualifying times and now I post how to fix it and no response.

bobloblaw 12-07-2006 04:07 AM

I copy and pasted your post and e-mailed it too myself. I plan on contacting Claudette later today. I appreciate you posting the number to remedy this situation. Thanks again!!!

pvtpilot 12-07-2006 07:51 AM

I keep hearing from all differnt people how short Eagle is on pilots. However, they are sticking to the 1000 and 100 unless you are in a bridge program. Is that truely the offical minimums are is it more like 600 and 200 which I heard from some Eagle pilots?
I worked for Eagle before transfering to AA and getting laid off. I would really like to fly for Eagle. I currently have 600 and 400 but do not want to apply if I do not stand a chance.
Careerpilot, do you have any insight into the minimums and if my times might work?

Thanks

freezingflyboy 12-07-2006 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by pvtpilot (Post 89411)
I keep hearing from all differnt people how short Eagle is on pilots. However, they are sticking to the 1000 and 100 unless you are in a bridge program. Is that truely the offical minimums are is it more like 600 and 200 which I heard from some Eagle pilots?
I worked for Eagle before transfering to AA and getting laid off. I would really like to fly for Eagle. I currently have 600 and 400 but do not want to apply if I do not stand a chance.
Careerpilot, do you have any insight into the minimums and if my times might work?

Thanks

Sounds like with how desperate eagle is, if you have a pulse and 500 hours, youre in. I say fire off your stuff, the worse that will happen is they say "thanks, come back when you have XXX".

JoeyMeatballs 12-07-2006 09:04 AM

wow they must be hurting

DMEarc 12-07-2006 01:49 PM

I would be willing to tell CJC to fuk themselves and go fly for Eagle or XJT.

Baronpilot 12-07-2006 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by pvtpilot (Post 89411)
I keep hearing from all differnt people how short Eagle is on pilots. However, they are sticking to the 1000 and 100 unless you are in a bridge program. Is that truely the offical minimums are is it more like 600 and 200 which I heard from some Eagle pilots?
I worked for Eagle before transfering to AA and getting laid off. I would really like to fly for Eagle. I currently have 600 and 400 but do not want to apply if I do not stand a chance.
Careerpilot, do you have any insight into the minimums and if my times might work?

Thanks


I talked to an Eagle guy who said an applicant got in at 500/75.

AKfreighter 12-07-2006 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by Baronpilot (Post 89559)
I talked to an Eagle guy who said an applicant got in at 500/75.

Yeah, he's still getting hosed and underpaid.

Baronpilot 12-08-2006 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by AKfreighter (Post 89733)
Yeah, he's still getting hosed and underpaid.

You are probably right. I never know for sure what kind of info I get. Just figured I'd throw that out there for Eagle hopefulls. I can tell you the captain was fairly senior and seemed to enjoy the job quite a bit.

careerpilot 12-08-2006 10:51 AM

They have tried not to lower their standards but if the shortage keeps up they might have to. I say call Claudette and see if she is receptive to your qualifications.

DMEarc 12-08-2006 12:08 PM

Ask her if she considers sub 700 hour guys?

LivinTheDream28 12-08-2006 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 89555)
I would be willing to tell CJC to fuk themselves and go fly for Eagle or XJT.

DME after seeing the Contract at XJT I would highly recommend looking into them, I haven't seen a better one yet......

DMEarc 12-08-2006 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 89889)
DME after seeing the Contract at XJT I would highly recommend looking into them, I haven't seen a better one yet......

I'm in a contract with Colgan, but I'm looking to leave after a year and have a few friends looking for jobs.

AVIVIII 12-08-2006 01:09 PM

Hey, at least Eagle is a step up the payscale from Colgan!

Baronpilot 12-08-2006 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by LivinTheDream28 (Post 89889)
DME after seeing the Contract at XJT I would highly recommend looking into them, I haven't seen a better one yet......


Now that you've got the XJT job offer, what happens with Colgan? I would assume you'll be taking the XJT offer.:D

careerpilot 12-08-2006 02:25 PM

Also just to add Eagle has the best travel benifits of any regional. Unlimited space available travel for employee and family. Parents and friends get 24 one way passes a year. What makes the travel privileges so great is that it is first come first served. You can check in for a flight 4 hours early online and get yourself on the standby list. It isn't senority based like many other carriers. If you check in before a AA employee then you are ahead of them on the standby list. Only jumpseats are senority based. This applies to Eagle and mainline.

LivinTheDream28 12-08-2006 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Baronpilot (Post 89926)
Now that you've got the XJT job offer, what happens with Colgan? I would assume you'll be taking the XJT offer.:D

You better believe it bud. XJT is top notch :D

RJ Pilot 12-09-2006 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 89939)
Also just to add Eagle has the best travel benifits of any regional. Unlimited space available travel for employee and family. Parents and friends get 24 one way passes a year. What makes the travel privileges so great is that it is first come first served. You can check in for a flight 4 hours early online and get yourself on the standby list. It isn't senority based like many other carriers. If you check in before a AA employee then you are ahead of them on the standby list. Only jumpseats are senority based. This applies to Eagle and mainline.

You forgot to mention that you have to PAY until you get the 5yr mark.(even for yourself).With Mainline cutting capacity, good luck getting on.

Hayduke 12-09-2006 11:52 AM


Also just to add Eagle has the best travel benifits of any regional.
Paying to sit on one of your own companies planes is awesome. There's nothing like seeing your paycheck docked a hundred bucks a month for commuting.

Seriously, Eagle's travel benefits are a lot worse than my current employers--a LOT worse.

careerpilot 12-09-2006 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Hayduke (Post 90208)
Paying to sit on one of your own companies planes is awesome. There's nothing like seeing your paycheck docked a hundred bucks a month for commuting.

Seriously, Eagle's travel benefits are a lot worse than my current employers--a LOT worse.

I find that hard to believe my father worked for Northwest for 33 years and our benifits are better than theirs. The fee that is charged is minute and I have never had a problem getting on an airplane. After 5 years coach is completely free commuting or personal travel. A lot of guys complain but they have never seen how it is at other carriers. AMR travel privileges is the one thing I would never complain about.

rickair7777 12-09-2006 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 89185)
If you meet mins and have a clean history and were sent the message stating you don't meet the competitive mins Claudette Carroll wants you to call her to discuss your qualifcations. Her number is 817-963-1064. I have alerted her to your posts staing that you meet the mins and are being denied. It may be a glitch with Airlineapps.com and she would like to know about it. This will help you get an interview if you do indeed meet the mins and have a clean history. PM me if this helps.

This reminds me of my dealings with eagle a few years ago...not entirely functional.

Hayduke 12-09-2006 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 90220)
I find that hard to believe my father worked for Northwest for 33 years and our benifits are better than theirs. The fee that is charged is minute and I have never had a problem getting on an airplane. After 5 years coach is completely free commuting or personal travel. A lot of guys complain but they have never seen how it is at other carriers. AMR travel privileges is the one thing I would never complain about.

Well, I have seen how it is at one other carrier, and Eagle's travel bennies suck in comparison. The mileage fee isn't bad unless you're a commuter doing four legs and 4000 miles a week, and then it starts to get expensive.

It wouldn't be bad if they didn't train their gate agents to specifically NOT give you jumpseat passes (which are free), but they do, and gate agents that are willing to break that policy are rare. Go AMR! Way to squeeze a little more money out of your employees.

careerpilot 12-09-2006 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by Hayduke (Post 90351)
Well, I have seen how it is at one other carrier, and Eagle's travel bennies suck in comparison. The mileage fee isn't bad unless you're a commuter doing four legs and 4000 miles a week, and then it starts to get expensive.

It wouldn't be bad if they didn't train their gate agents to specifically NOT give you jumpseat passes (which are free), but they do, and gate agents that are willing to break that policy are rare. Go AMR! Way to squeeze a little more money out of your employees.

So tell me how your benifiits are so much better because i highly doubt it.

Utah 12-09-2006 09:14 PM

Careerpilot, are you sure you're not a HR person instead of a pilot? 65 post trying to sell a company that doesn't have a captain hired this decade! Junior Captain sitting reserve on a SF340 with seven years seniority? Pay to commute?

careerpilot 12-09-2006 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by Utah (Post 90369)
Careerpilot, are you sure you're not a HR person instead of a pilot? 65 post trying to sell a company that doesn't have a captain hired this decade! Junior Captain sitting reserve on a SF340 with seven years seniority? Pay to commute?

Well I just landed in KICT about an hour ago so I am pretty sure I am a pilot. Just trying to help people out. I firmly believe that things are about to turn around at Eagle and am trying to help people get in on the front of the hieing wave. I have been completely honest with people and I am open to help out anyone that wants help. I was hired in 2001 and really enjoy working for Eagle. Plus I would also much rather work for a stable company. American and Eagle aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Can you say that about many other airlines? I would hate to be tied to NWA, UAL or Delta at this point.

LAfrequentflyer 12-10-2006 05:58 AM

Sorry...But being #2 for years / years does not appeal to me...Fast upgrade to CA and PIC time for the next move are king...


-LAFF

RJ Pilot 12-10-2006 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 90427)
Sorry...But being #2 for years / years does not appeal to me...Fast upgrade to CA and PIC time for the next move are king...


-LAFF


Thats why I would fly that Shiny jet for free, and camp out in the airplane If I have too!!!!

Hayduke 12-10-2006 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by careerpilot (Post 90366)
So tell me how your benifiits are so much better because i highly doubt it.

OK. Unlimited non-rev travel for me on company, United, Delta, United express, and Delta Connection. Delta is a $50/year service fee. Unlimited non-rev travel on same for parents and girlfriend (unlike Eagle--had to take her travel out of 24 pass bank) with a nominal mileage fee for them. Yearly allotment of buddy passes available.

And...listen again...aside from the $50/year fee on Delta, there is NO charge for me to nonrev. What AMR is absolute crap, and everybody I tell about it here thinks so. If you can't see that, then you're blind, dude.

LAfrequentflyer 12-10-2006 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 90454)
Thats why I would fly that Shiny jet for free, and camp out in the airplane If I have too!!!!

I hope you're joking...

I've asked a few people ...MESA is not as bad as many would have you believe. Its actually a decent airline / operation for a regional.

-LAFF

RJ Pilot 12-10-2006 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 90468)
I hope you're joking...

I've asked a few people ...MESA is not as bad as many would have you believe. Its actually a decent airline / operation for a regional.

-LAFF

I hope you arent serious....:D

freezingflyboy 12-10-2006 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 90454)
Thats why I would fly that Shiny jet for free, and camp out in the airplane If I have too!!!!

Well shoot, Id pay to fly a shiny jet and I'll wash the plane for em too! Just so I can upgrade before you do! Sucker!!!:D

RJ Pilot 12-10-2006 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 90513)
Well shoot, Id pay to fly a shiny jet and I'll wash the plane for em too! Just so I can upgrade before you do! Sucker!!!:D

And you wonder why this industry is the way it is.:rolleyes:

rickair7777 12-10-2006 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by LAfrequentflyer (Post 90468)
I've asked a few people ...MESA is not as bad as many would have you believe. Its actually a decent airline / operation for a regional.

-LAFF

Wrong!

I challenge you to go work for mesa for 6 months, then come back here and tell us what you think...

Many folks who haven't been there have real trouble believing how bad it really is. That's probably why they can still attract employees....denial.

freezingflyboy 12-10-2006 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 90580)
And you wonder why this industry is the way it is.:rolleyes:

I was being sarcastic:D

bobloblaw 12-12-2006 05:59 PM

I spoke to Claudette Carroll and she asked me to also tell everyone who applied and got a denial to call her and discuss your qualifications.

careerpilot 12-12-2006 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Hayduke (Post 90455)
OK. Unlimited non-rev travel for me on company, United, Delta, United express, and Delta Connection. Delta is a $50/year service fee. Unlimited non-rev travel on same for parents and girlfriend (unlike Eagle--had to take her travel out of 24 pass bank) with a nominal mileage fee for them. Yearly allotment of buddy passes available.

And...listen again...aside from the $50/year fee on Delta, there is NO charge for me to nonrev. What AMR is absolute crap, and everybody I tell about it here thinks so. If you can't see that, then you're blind, dude.

How does your standby list work, is it by senority? Who do you work for? I find it quite Ironic that your regional gets better pass travel then NWA, AMR, former Atlantic Coast that was also tied to United and Delta, Not to mention many others. Oh and by the way good luck working for a carrier that is tied to United and Delta because they both are doing great.


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