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yimke 11-06-2013 10:54 AM

Poll: First to offer 6k+ bonus
 
Now that Silver is offering 6k sign on bonus, which airline will offer more than that with the ATP training rules changing next year? This keeps getting more fun to watch!:D

lolwut 11-06-2013 10:56 AM

Sure is great to offer a select few a bonus that, when averaged out over length of employment, works out to next to nothing.... instead of just increasing pay and contract quality to improve the overall attractiveness of the airline and pilot retention.

Then again, nobody ever said pilots were good at math or planning for the future.

yimke 11-06-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1514741)
Sure is great to offer a select few a bonus that, when averaged out over length of employment, works out to next to nothing.... instead of just increasing pay and contract quality to improve the overall attractiveness of the airline and pilot retention.

Then again, nobody ever said pilots were good at math or planning for the future.

People seasoned in the regional airlines know that. However, they are hoping to pry on all those star-eyed CFI's and low timers. Just begging to be put in a shiny jet! It is more cost effective to offer a bonus for management. Because they can ALWAYS take it away if things go down the drain.

Seminole00 11-06-2013 11:08 AM

Skywest ;D

bcpilot 11-06-2013 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1514745)
People seasoned in the regional airlines know that. However, they are hoping to pry on all those star-eyed CFI's and low timers. Just begging to be put in a shiny jet! It is more cost effective to offer a bonus for management. Because they can ALWAYS take it away if things go down the drain.

Silver doesn't even have the shiny jets which would satisfy the SJS...

It is a great Tax write off for the company Plus the one time $5,000.00 or $6,000.00 bonus looks a lot appealing than a $1.00 per hour raise

There was rumour about Eagle offering 10k but it didn't go anywhere.

Seminole00 11-06-2013 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1514745)
People seasoned in the regional airlines know that. However, they are hoping to pry on all those star-eyed CFI's and low timers. Just begging to be put in a shiny jet! It is more cost effective to offer a bonus for management. Because they can ALWAYS take it away if things go down the drain.

The problem is not every low timer and star eyed CFI make much more money than first year FO, and Seminole time will never carry them in to the majors. :rolleyes:

smooth50 11-06-2013 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1514752)
Silver doesn't even have the shiny jets which would satisfy the SJS...

It is a great Tax write off for the company Plus the one time $5,000.00 or $6,000.00 bonus looks a lot appealing than a $1.00 per hour raise

There was rumour about Eagle offering 10k but it didn't go anywhere.

I believe they do offer a 10k but it's for the pipeline program. Goes towards your student loan. Not positive though.

dirtysidedown 11-06-2013 12:24 PM

Oh boy, so now instead of living off ramen noodles these poor new FO's can now afford to splurge on happy meals. I don't know how they got my email,but some job fair company was willing to pay me to attend one of their regional airline job fairs, how pathetic is this becoming.

block30 11-06-2013 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Seminole00 (Post 1514755)
The problem is not every low timer and star eyed CFI make much more money than first year FO, and Seminole time will never carry them in to the majors. :rolleyes:

This is true and a conundrum.

BaronRouge380 11-06-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by yimke (Post 1514738)
Now that Silver is offering 6k sign on bonus, which airline will offer more than that with the ATP training rules changing next year? This keeps getting more fun to watch!:D

Who cares about a 6k or even 10k bonus. They need to at least double first year pay!

Cruz5350 11-06-2013 05:53 PM

Lmao Silver goes up a grand to make themselves look better yet it takes 4 years to break 30/hr. You'd be an absolute fool to go there and it's even worse on the 1900.

Boomer 11-06-2013 06:33 PM

$6000 Sign-On Bonus? Kid stuff.

When we shut down, I got a Sign-Off bonus for not stealing any loose CRJ knobs or sun shades. And I was very junior. :eek:

dirtysidedown 11-07-2013 04:02 AM

At least $40.00 an hour for first year pay is a good place to start across the board at all regionals. That's about 40,000 a year average. I flew for a regional 6 years ago and simply could not afford to work there anymore, it was a shame, because i liked the schedule and people i flew with but i was headed toward bankruptcy. I winded up flying charter doubling my pay but crappy schedule and flying with older grumpy pilots.

Aviatrx 11-07-2013 04:17 AM

Offering this bonus is such a slap in the face because it is being offered while the companies are fighting to cap wages and set up B-scales for new hires. This all seems counterproductive to me.

bcpilot 11-07-2013 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1514882)
Who cares about a 6k or even 10k bonus. They need to at least double first year pay!

Very unlikely to happen....

BaronRouge380 11-07-2013 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by bcpilot (Post 1515175)
Very unlikely to happen....

Let them shut down for lack of applicants (can always hope) and let main line take over.

bcpilot 11-07-2013 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by BaronRouge380 (Post 1515198)
Let them shut down for lack of applicants (can always hope) and let main line take over.

Your first wish is very difficult & it will be years before it can happen, if it actually ever happens.

The 2nd part of your wish, that is again is very unlikely to happen...

7AC2B60 11-08-2013 10:18 PM

Island Air Job Posting

REVISED NOVEMBER 1, 2013

FOUR (4) COMPLETION BONUSES AWARDED AFTER SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING EACH OF THE FOLLOWING FOUR (4) MILESTONE EVENTS; IOE, PROBATIONARY PERIOD, 18 MONTHS SERVICE, 30 MONTHS SERVICE.

(advised $3k x 4=$12k over 2.5 yrs to assist with relocation & higher COL)

FO STARTING SALARY $33.84 PER HOUR

http://www.islandair.com/wp-content/...er-13-1002.pdf

Gjn290 11-08-2013 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by 7AC2B60 (Post 1516379)
Island Air Job Posting

REVISED NOVEMBER 1, 2013

FOUR (4) COMPLETION BONUSES AWARDED AFTER SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETING EACH OF THE FOLLOWING FOUR (4) MILESTOE EVENTS; IOE, PROBATIONARY PERIOD, 18 MONTHS SERVICE, 30 MONTHS SERVICE.

(advised $3k x 4=$12k over 2.5 yrs to assist with relocation & higher COL)

FO STARTING SALARY $33.84 PER HOUR

http://www.islandair.com/wp-content/...er-13-1002.pdf

That's a step in the right direction, first year pay was $26.02 with no bonuses. However now they require 500 multi!? That's a bit on the high end. What did year two pay go up to?

7AC2B60 11-08-2013 10:53 PM

est 5-8% range total increase after first year.....something about raise in July 2014 per contract, also one year from DOH raise.....didn't ask on flex to the 500 multi.....emailed HR if "age only" R-ATP accepted, will post response if/when rec'd.

Gjn290 11-08-2013 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Gjn290 (Post 1516380)
That's a step in the right direction, first year pay was $26.02 with no bonuses. However now they require 500 multi!? That's a bit on the high end. What did year two pay go up to?


Originally Posted by 7AC2B60 (Post 1516383)
est 5-8% range total increase after first year.....something about raise in July 2014 per contract, also one year from DOH raise.....didn't ask on flex to the 500 multi.....emailed HR if "age only" R-ATP accepted, will post response if/when rec'd.

We had a guy interview at WP with an ATP and 171 multi (200 multi is what they posted) and they asked him if he could get to 200! Pretty firm with 200, either that or they didn't like the guy, either is possible.


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