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Sounder 11-14-2013 10:49 PM

Cockpit Footage finally allowed on Youtube?
 
Now that electronic devices are allowed beneath 10,000 ft does that mean people can post videos from the cockpit of landing or takeoff without certificate action? Or will these hardened felons still be brought to justice?

toomanyrjs 11-15-2013 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Sounder (Post 1520338)
Now that electronic devices are allowed beneath 10,000 ft does that mean people can post videos from the cockpit of landing or takeoff without certificate action? Or will these hardened felons still be brought to justice?

What is it with kids these days having to post every nanosecond of their lives on the internet? Don't ya think ya oughta maybe pay attention to what your doing as opposed to film making?

Adlerdriver 11-15-2013 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sounder (Post 1520338)
Now that electronic devices are allowed beneath 10,000 ft does that mean people can post videos from the cockpit of landing or takeoff without certificate action? Or will these hardened felons still be brought to justice?

Landing and takeoff... how exciting!! Why do you think anyone would want to see it? If it has anything remotely interesting to the youtube crowd it probably means the filmmaker is dead or violated anyway.

bonesbrigade 11-15-2013 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 1520353)
Landing and takeoff... how exciting!! Why do you think anyone would want to see it? If it has anything remotely interesting to the youtube crowd it probably means the filmmaker is dead or violated anyway.

Incorrect. Have you seen the huge number of flight sim videos where absolutely nothing happens? It doens't take much to catch these youtube pleebs.

As for feeling the need to post every nanosecond of our lives... c'mon fella. The river visual into DC or an approach into JFK or BOS from over the water on a sunny day is an awesome sight. People enjoy seeing stuff like that. Just because your life is in the doldrums doesn't mean everyone elses' is.

BeechedJet 11-15-2013 02:52 AM

This may just be me but I really don't need more eyes in the cockpit critiquing my approaches than those that already do.

There are hundreds, maybe thousands of self appointed junior safety inspectors out there, sitting by their computer looking for things on YouTube to call the FSDO about.

sidelinesam 11-15-2013 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1520346)
What is it with kids these days having to post every nanosecond of their lives on the internet? Don't ya think ya oughta maybe pay attention to what your doing as opposed to film making?

Those damn kids and their rap music! :rolleyes:

LivnDaDrm 11-15-2013 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Sounder (Post 1520338)
Now that electronic devices are allowed beneath 10,000 ft does that mean people can post videos from the cockpit of landing or takeoff without certificate action? Or will these hardened felons still be brought to justice?

The reason why you should never post a cockpit video on Youtube, Facebook, etc, The Sterile Cockpit Rule. Even if portable electronic devices (PED) are allowed below 10,000 ft, I somehow don't think a Fed is going to think taking a video is an essential task during a critical stage of flight. Don't forget the Feds favorite catch all of 91.13

Jason5 11-15-2013 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by LivnDaDrm (Post 1520379)
The reason why you should never post a cockpit video on Youtube, Facebook, etc, The Sterile Cockpit Rule. Even if portable electronic devices (PED) are allowed below 10,000 ft, I somehow don't think a Fed is going to think taking a video is an essential task during a critical stage of flight. Don't forget the Feds favorite catch all of 91.13

What if you just have a GoPro set up and continuously filming?

LivnDaDrm 11-15-2013 04:26 AM


Originally Posted by Jason5 (Post 1520382)
What if you just have a GoPro set up and continuously filming?

Mounting a GoPro would amount to an alteration, is there an STC for mounting a GoPro?

mooney 11-15-2013 05:56 AM

deleted.....same thing that Livin said about sterile.

Jason5 11-15-2013 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by LivnDaDrm (Post 1520396)
Mounting a GoPro would amount to an alteration, is there an STC for mounting a GoPro?

No, but people still do it.

What 11-15-2013 06:16 AM

You guys might want to read your company manuals, just because the PAX can do it doesn't mean you can.

"1.11 Personal Equipment Distractions caused by portable electronic devices affect flight safety because they can detract from a flight crew's ability to monitor and cross-check instruments, detect hazards and avoid errors. A. Personal Electronics: Flight crewmembers may not use personal portable electronic devices (PEDs), (e.g., cell phones, two-way pagers, I-pods/MP3 players, laptops, PDAs, etc.), while performing job-related duties on or around the aircraft unless directly related to those duties. This does not preclude operations-related cell phone use to contact SOC, etc. when necessary as an alternate means of communication. Captains must take precautions to ensure cell phone use does not interfere with ground movement safety."

mynameisjim 11-15-2013 06:20 AM

What about posting an excerpt of your company's copywritten manual on the internet?

rickair7777 11-15-2013 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by LivnDaDrm (Post 1520379)
The reason why you should never post a cockpit video on Youtube, Facebook, etc, The Sterile Cockpit Rule. Even if portable electronic devices (PED) are allowed below 10,000 ft, I somehow don't think a Fed is going to think taking a video is an essential task during a critical stage of flight. Don't forget the Feds favorite catch all of 91.13


Absolutely correct as far as the crew goes. A jumpseater might eb able to take video, although he's technically part of the crew and I suppose the FAA might prefer that he watch for traffic or something...not sure how that would play.

But definitely not good for the crew, I know a guy who got fired for doing exactly that.

flysooner9 11-15-2013 06:53 AM

Just be smart about it. Don't have a camera angle where anyone is visible or registration numbers. Also certainly don't post on Facebook and if you post on YouTube have a random user name. When it all comes down to it there's no way a video could be proven to be yours if done right. You could simply be reposting a video.

snippercr 11-15-2013 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 1520469)
What about posting an excerpt of your company's copywritten manual on the internet?

Your company copyrighted their manuals? They must be making a killing on royalties.

This thread is amazing

mooney 11-15-2013 07:38 AM

just to help another pointless thread make it to 30 pages.......Strobes on of off entering the runway?

FLowpayFO 11-15-2013 07:43 AM

It's sad how paranoid we've become to something so stupid like taking a picture or filming at our jobs. :cool:

The Juice 11-15-2013 08:13 AM


just to help another pointless thread make it to 30 pages.......Strobes on of off entering the runway?
And when we finish debating strobes; leather jackets? Thoughts? Haha

LivnDaDrm 11-15-2013 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1520540)
And when we finish debating strobes; leather jackets? Thoughts? Haha

What about the use of DC Headsets only?

80ktsClamp 11-15-2013 10:44 AM

What's with all the regional pilots carrying more bags/coolers than the FAs?

clearprop 11-15-2013 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by The Juice (Post 1520540)
And when we finish debating strobes; leather jackets? Thoughts? Haha

Will my Ducks make it to the Rose Bowl?

MoarAlpha 11-15-2013 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by LivnDaDrm (Post 1520396)
Mounting a GoPro would amount to an alteration, is there an STC for mounting a GoPro?

How is mounting a GoPro any different that clipping your Jepps to the chart holder? Neither is permanent. This is absurd.

On that note I will never film myself flying. That's just asking for problems.

cjarvis 11-15-2013 11:10 AM

If the Ducks want to get beat :D

LivnDaDrm 11-15-2013 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by MoarAlpha (Post 1520652)
How is mounting a GoPro any different that clipping your Jepps to the chart holder? Neither is permanent. This is absurd.

On that note I will never film myself flying. That's just asking for problems.

Your Record of Enforcement Actions is Permanent

lolwut 11-15-2013 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by LivnDaDrm (Post 1520659)
Your Record of Enforcement Actions is Permanent

But if you were to clip your record of enforcement actions to the aircraft, would it be double permanent?

thurberm 11-15-2013 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1520363)
This may just be me but I really don't need more eyes in the cockpit critiquing my approaches than those that already do.

There are hundreds, maybe thousands of self appointed junior safety inspectors out there, sitting by their computer looking for things on YouTube to call the FSDO about.

This. Glad to see that someone out there besides me still has a fully functioning self-preservation gene...

afterburn81 11-15-2013 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by BeechedJet (Post 1520363)
This may just be me but I really don't need more eyes in the cockpit critiquing my approaches than those that already do.

There are hundreds, maybe thousands of self appointed junior safety inspectors out there, sitting by their computer looking for things on YouTube to call the FSDO about.

Hence why you don't post anything less than textbook. Censorship is great.

LivnDaDrm 11-16-2013 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1520709)
But if you were to clip your record of enforcement actions to the aircraft, would it be double permanent?

Is that like Double Secret Probation?

ShyGuy 11-16-2013 11:47 AM

I wouldn't mind cockpit footage. Invariably though many pilots will end up putting d-bag type music and ruin a perfectly good video. Case in point:

Embraer 145 Cockpit view takeoff and landing (Go Pro HD camera) - YouTube

Everything going great until 1:12 and it starts.

snippercr 11-16-2013 12:25 PM

oops, wrong forum

NWA320pilot 11-16-2013 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 1520491)
Just be smart about it. Don't have a camera angle where anyone is visible or registration numbers. Also certainly don't post on Facebook and if you post on YouTube have a random user name. When it all comes down to it there's no way a video could be proven to be yours if done right. You could simply be reposting a video.

Why in the world would someone do something like this and put their career in jeopardy? :confused:

todd405 11-16-2013 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1520646)
What's with all the regional pilots carrying more bags/coolers than the FAs?

Gotta have a cooler to carry around a weeks worth of cheese and crackers, PB&J sandwiches, and Ramens! Isn't that the 1st year pay meal plan?

TBucket 11-16-2013 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 1521350)
Everything going great until 1:12 and it starts.


He gets points for not using that "sail" song that 97% of all other cockpit videos use, at least.


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