Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

Which companies are hiring right now with bare ATP mins + written? And by bare mins, I mean no more multi than what the FAA now requires (i.e., 50 or 25+25 sim).

I know Piedmont is, who else?

Everybody. Might want to check on the written. I heard the requirements for that changed too. Haven't paid too much attention because I have an ATP and it doesn't apply to me. Good luck.

Expressjet

One way to find out is to apply. Pretty much everyone is hiring.

Everyone but Compass it seems. No idea about Horizon either.

Pretty much everybody. Wouldn't hurt to apply to every airline that you would want to work for. What's the worst they can do, say thanks but no thanks?

Do it!

I know of a guy recently hired at XJT with only 25 multi. It's kinda funny because up until the past 6 months I was a low multi time pilot and I was always told how 100 hrs was very firm and they would never back off of it, and yet here we are :)

The Skywest site still says 100ME but I've heard a few rumors of them interviewing with 50 that I can't confirm. Skywest has always said they would never back off of the 100ME requirement too so if that's true it's interesting.

I finally broke the mysterious 100 hour mark and I don't really feel much different or better at what I do. I don't think anybody cares anymore now that ATP mins are required. The 100 hour req was just to keep the younger, low time guys out.

ATP mins at Eagle.
They can't find people.

They called a buddy of mine with 65ish multi... FWIW.

Which is why asking for concessions is outrageous but maybe my understanding of supply and demand is off..

Not at all. Your understanding of the system is correct.

Pilotpool.com also now lists only 50 multi for SkyWest, that's a recent change. Does anyone have an inside contact with Camielle's people to confirm?

Does anyone know about Mesa?

Sorry I missed this if someone can explain. I know its 50 hrs multi now for the ATP but what is 25 + 25sim. Multi Sim that counts towards multi time for the ATP? Where, how, what?

Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

Up to 25 hours in a "full flight simulator" representative of a multi engine aircraft may be counted toward the 50 hrs time in class requirement for the ATP. Most take that to mean a Level C or D sim, though I haven't seen that in writing.

Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

Word I'm getting about SkyWest is that they're starting to offer interviews for those with as few as 50 multi but no class date til you have 100.

Only 131 pages or so can be found here for starters....

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...3969-mesa.html
Or
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ne-info-5.html

The later link features such great quotes as:
Quote:

Originally Posted by fozjared
"Just an update, I turned down the Skywest possibility because it was in a embraer 120.. I accepted the offer from Mesa flying the CRJ-900 and hoping to get the Phoenix base!! I start July 9th! Thanks for the encouragement guys!"

Reply:
Originally Posted by Jet87
"I wanna smack you in the face."

I hate to take this thread a little off course but if they are not taking people into classes who they can put through right now with an ATP my spider sense tells me that there really is no "looming shortage" I would have just assumed that the would get as many people on board as possible now before this really gets expensive.

Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

No one is taking people who cannot be put through an ATP ride right away. I don't know how in the world you came to that conclusion.

Are you serious? I have 25 hours time in a level D simulator that simuflite wouldn't let me log. :mad:

Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

Soakingpilot, disregard my last post, I misread yours.

§61.159 Aeronautical experience: Airplane category rating.
(a)(3) 50 hours of flight time in the class of airplane for the rating sought. A maximum of 25 hours of training in a full flight simulator representing the class of airplane for the rating sought may be credited toward the flight time requirement of this paragraph if the training was accomplished as part of an approved training course in parts 121, 135, 141, or 142 of this chapter. A flight training device or aviation training device may not be used to satisfy this requirement.

Maybe the bolded part is tripping you up?

Yep, I was about to say.. :cool:

Btw how many hours does one usually take for training on whatever jet/tprop + the type and ATP rating? This of course is when you have already been hired.

Who's hiring with bare ATP mins?
 

Varies depending on whether the training is done under AQP or not. It was roughly 25 hrs of sim at my last carrier (non-AQP).