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Mesabah 02-06-2014 08:02 PM

LOL, the FAA blames Colgan...

FAA pilot safety training blamed for fewer flights

MEMbrain 02-06-2014 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1576078)
Oh I got interviews and got hired. So what was your point again, you're irritated about what? :)


Must have washed out in training then.

mojo6911 02-06-2014 10:32 PM

If Alpa were a real union, PSA would have never taken those concessions in this climate.

Herb Flemmming 02-07-2014 12:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cubdriver (Post 1576078)
Oh I got interviews and got hired. So what was your point again, you're irritated about what? :)

No one has a bleeding heart for a guy with minimal experience whining about how he cant get a 21,000/yr. dream job at a regional airline.

Contact App 02-07-2014 01:28 AM

Thousands of pilots applying for the job. There could be a demand for Crop dusters.

johnso29 02-07-2014 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by mojo6911 (Post 1576144)
If Alpa were a real union, PSA would have never taken those concessions in this climate.

The more appropriate statement is "If the majority of PSA pilots voted NO, PSA pilots would've never taken those concessions." ALPA National is not allowed to dictate what pilot groups do. They can only provide guidance, legal advice, financial analysis, etc.

If an airline is BK(this is not about PSA but rather a hypothetical situation), and it comes to it's pilot group for concessions, would it be ok for ALPA National to tell management to go pound sand simply because ALPA is a "real union"? Putting pilots there out of jobs? The decision is up to the pilot group. Not ALPA National.

embraerjetpilot 02-07-2014 03:03 AM

Alpa proves once again that they do not represent the needs of regional airline pilots

yimke 02-07-2014 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1575969)
It's music to your ears because it justifies your inability to get hired anywhere...which is perplexing considering I know almost all regionals are snatching up qualified candidates each month. I have friends who were offered jobs at all of the "good" paying regionals. Each of them received multiple offers. I received offers from 4. Even ones who I felt had no business in a jet got hired within a month of applying.

I agree that decent pay and job security is what could solve this issue in a heartbeat.

Don't you ever talk about cubdriver that way!! Mod ban coming.:D

Coolbeans 02-07-2014 05:22 AM

If an airline is BK(this is not about PSA but rather a hypothetical situation), and it comes to it's pilot group for concessions, would it be ok for ALPA National to tell management to go pound sand simply because ALPA is a "real union"? Putting pilots there out of jobs? The decision is up to the pilot group. Not ALPA National.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you that once a pilot group votes on something alpa national can't not deny there opinion but the union is also suppose to protect the whole group from a group that might have other motives that don't help the entire group as a whole. PSA although they have the right to made a choice that will only benefits them and hurts a lot of other carries in the long run when it comes to negotiations. A proper union would come out and try to explain to the out the group how bad there choice could be.

pitch mode 02-07-2014 05:38 AM

Hmmmm, US regional: $17k a year and 40 year old wife or Chinese airline $17K a month and 25 year old Asian girlfriend.


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