New email from Lee Moak
 

Hey thanks, Lee. No ****. Think you might want to do something about it?

New email from Lee Moak
 

He is feeling the pressureeee!

Nah, just a re-election year. Funny how he is sending out videos and communications like crazy last few months.

I'm actually impressed. Finally, the ugly reality of being a regional pilot is making a headline.
Maybe some change is around the corner, but after being here for almost a decade and watching it get worse every day, I'm not expecting much.

Nevermind.

Isn't this the same guy who was bragging about helping pinnacle negotiate their new contract in 100 days in his unbelievable or un-whatever it was email.

It's a marathon. Labor has made some good changes to the rules. Let's stand tall and not allow the rules to be relaxed. I can see the light.

My question/concerns are;

Will those who are really in charge of the regionals--legacy airline management--do anything to remedy the current compensation/career progression model?

Or are they intentionally sitting on their hands to let the current situation get so catastrophic that the government will give them anything they want, e.g., Multi Crew License, repeal the ATP law, financial incentives?

I think it should absolutely be a matter of public record and a highlighted issue before our congress, that the method of attracting new pilots and mechanics was to force more concessions on such those groups. Management should have to answer to that before they start asking the government for leniency or handouts.

Or make it known that there has been plenty of money for significant mainline contract improvements.

Yes, this too. Good point!

Mainline pilots (who are applying by the thousands) are getting pay raises.* However, regional pilots (who cannot be found), need to take concessions OR ELSE! Makes sense to me!! :rolleyes:

Also, I am writing my congressman concise letters to counter what I assume is a boatload of propaganda from Roger Cohen 'n pals. In know that is not much, but I am trying to do something constructive.

*Mainline pilots getting pay raises is a GOOD thing, no question!

Whatever, where was this when concessions were forced down our throat?

This is nothing more than political. National "endorsed" our TA no doubt.

Can someone post the email?

February 16, 2014

Fellow ALPA Members,

There are many reports and opinions about the impending U.S. pilot shortage – some airline managements are even citing the “shortage” for closing hubs, canceling flights and discontinuing routes across the continent. Yes, there are few examples today of airlines having trouble finding pilots, but it’s not because the pilots don’t exist. Each one of us probably knows a fellow ALPA member who is furloughed, working for a foreign air carrier, or a fellow line pilot who is suffering from the real shortage: a pay and benefit shortage.

It is time for airline management to wake up and deal with their reality. They must be willing to pay for the professionalism, expertise, airmanship ability, and judgment that professional airline pilots possess. The Air Line Pilots Association has renewed its commitment to ensuring its members are able to continue in their chosen profession here in the U.S. by promoting a robust and reliable airline piloting profession today. I hope you’ll watch the video, and share it with your fellow pilots, friends and family.

Respectfully,

Lee Moak

Here you go. I included the link to his video message as well.

http://youtu.be/LKdMbW5y1Rk

February 16, 2014

Fellow ALPA Members,

There are many reports and opinions about the impending U.S. pilot shortage – some airline managements are even citing the “shortage” for closing hubs, canceling flights and discontinuing routes across the continent. Yes, there are few examples today of airlines having trouble finding pilots, but it’s not because the pilots don’t exist. Each one of us probably knows a fellow ALPA member who is furloughed, working for a foreign air carrier, or a fellow line pilot who is suffering from the real shortage: a pay and benefit shortage.

It is time for airline management to wake up and deal with their reality. They must be willing to pay for the professionalism, expertise, airmanship ability, and judgment that professional airline pilots possess. The Air Line Pilots Association has renewed its commitment to ensuring its members are able to continue in their chosen profession here in the U.S. by promoting a robust and reliable airline piloting profession today. I hope you’ll watch the video, and share it with your fellow pilots, friends and family.

Respectfully,

Lee Moak

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As an outsider, this guy strikes me as a complete clown.

He and ALPA is. They have a call to action to stop NAI and foreign carriers from operating in the USA. This is to protect mainline pilot jobs so mainline companies and pilots can do to regional pilots what ALPA is trying to prevent NAI and foreign carriers from doing.

Moak is up for reelection this year. I hear his chances are not good, even the DAL BOD members are turning on him. Apparently he feels he can brainwash the Regional reps to vote for him, despite him defecating on our segment for the last few years.

I know you read this. Go away Lee. Electing you was the biggest mistake the BOD has made (since Prater).

That's because he is.

****ing hypocrite, just like every politician on the planet...

can't believe anyone actually reads his emails or any of the bull**** propaganda alpa puts out, those are all instant deletes for me..

oh and by the way, **** lee moak, **** him in his stupid lying delta ass

I think you're really onto something with your supposition about waiting for government intervention. There is enough momentum now that the balance of power is shifting toward the concerns of regional pilots that belong to ALPA. ALPA has been doing the same thing as the industry, kicking the can down the road and not confronting the personnel challenges facing the airline industry.

New email from Lee Moak
 

I give him 90 days to make significant visible changes. If I see nothing but emails, youtube videos, silly meetings and no measurable changes...then I'm done with you Mr. Moak.

So stop spending all your time making videos and writing emails and get to work. Your time is ticking...

The next update I want from you is regional change updates and securing the new minimums for hiring and rest rules. That's it...

I got the previous ALPA email that stated there was no pilot shortage, just a shortage of pilots that don't want to work for bottom dollar. I GET IT...I didn't need an additional video to explain that...

Stop with show and get to work...

Why give him any more time? Just ask yourself... is your section of the industry better off today than it was when he came into office?

Spot on. However I don't think the government will be as receptive to intervening as everyone seems to think. The FAA is not about to repeal their own rule and as far as the ATP goes I don't see congress repealing the law anytime soon no matter how hard the RAA kicks and screams. To quote BB himself any changes to the law will be years down the road. The jig is up and they know it that is why the rumored Republic TA contains significant raises for First Officers. It might take some time to turn this ship around but for once at least we're all pulling in the same direction. Republic has a rare opportunity to do what Comair tried years ago that is raise the compensation bar for everyone. With the votes at ExpressJet and Eagle, new aircraft orders on the way, and a massive pilot shortage, we could not possibly have more leverage. All it takes is just a little backbone and it's amazing what you can achieve. It seems in the media at least Wall Street has already recognized that salaries are going to have to increase but that doesn't mean they're going to go down without a fight. We have them on the ropes now it's time for the pilots of RAH to deliver the knockout punch.

No one forced anything on you. You could have said no. Take some responsibility.

I swear I just read that there is traction in the United States towards the Multi Crew License. I know Canada just passed something like that; Canada Adopts Multi-Crew Pilot License - AVweb flash Article

However, I don't think I'm confusing myself with the Canadian news.... I am kicking myself for not saving that article or memo I read!!

I did say no....Thanks for the advice.

Take your nonsense elsewhere.

You guys made your ****ty job more ****ty, then blame everyone but yourselves. You should have made a stand for the profession as a group. Your job wasn't even worth saving. It is a stepping stone job that should have been sacrificed for the profession. I blame ALPA for this one also. We need to accept that sacrifices need to be made for the profession.

This is one of the more arrogant posts I've read in a while.

Where do you work?

I remember when that used to be true and regionals were less than half the traffic. Thing is, that's no longer true. If what you said was correct, we wouldn't have 7 and 10 year regional pilots like we do right now. They would have spent 1-2 years and "moved on", like the recruiters and colleges told them. Bottom line, that "model" is broken, it hasn't worked like that in years. You need to face reality.

Scott Kirby (CFO us airways) is famous for saying that regional airlines were never meant to be career places.
Well my thoughts is that the above is true. Up until management placed mainline size airplanes at regional airlines.
What he is really saying is that in order to make him more money. More and more mainline size aircraft have to be flown at B scale prices.

The reality is the retirement age was raised from 60 to 65. This caused the industry to freeze for 5 years. I've got news for you. Your extra 5 years aren't at the end of your career in the highest paying seat. Your extra 5 years are spent in whatever seat you were in when the age limit was raised. For some, this meant instead of spending 2-5 years at a regional, guys are spending 7-10 years. This will change now that the 5 year freeze is over. It is still a stepping stone job. Age 65 affected all of us a lot more than people realize.

No, it won't, because there's 135, corporate, military, and all those other guys fighting it out to be the "select few" that get on with "the majors". Because regionals take up so much of the air traffic volume, the system doesn't work like it used to. There's a surplus of pilots for a shortage of major airline jobs. Retirement will help, but it's not going to be some crazy boom, you and everyone else has been predicting that for 30+ years for all sorts of reasons. If it wasn't "age 65" it was "increased travel of retired baby boomers" or whatever the flavor of the moment. I don't like being so cynical, but you are the textbook definition of "dangling the carrot".

The 3 majors will be hiring approximately 600 per year each indefinitely. It will get less competitive as time goes on.

Why does everyone act like the regionals are this insignificant entity in the aviation world? Reliability « One Level of Safety

I'm trying to find data going farther back than 1999. And didn't American just announce last year they needed more regional lift to be competitive?

Are you a member of ALPA's Board of Directors?