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Old 02-19-2014, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163 View Post
Why? It's something that is true. If you all would stop throwing mud you'd realize such. The SAP is like what we have at Mainline and helps improve ones schedule greatly. But eh guess you might be slightly envious of such at RAH. PSAs contract, even if capped on years of service beats yours and many....
I see. Another PSA'er or former PSA'er who would've voted for a concessionary contract and been proud of it. I'll add you to the list. I see you show the same bitterness here as you do on JC. Noted.
Why don't you just grab a tennis ball, squeeze it and calm down Francis. And if your just looking for PSA guys. Make sure to add me to that list your making in lipstick on the hotel room mirror.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:21 PM
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I see. Another PSA'er or former PSA'er who would've voted for a concessionary contract and been proud of it. I'll add you to the list. I see you show the same bitterness here as you do on JC. Noted.
Yes sure.... Please do.... Continue your mud slinging rather then listening. It's worked wonderful to this part... Funny thing is it seems TillerENVY is rather ENVIOUS of Joilets schedule. Hate on it all you want but I'm thinking you at RAH aren't getting the same now are you?

Btw I was on my way out... I didn't vote as it wasn't my place to.... I however wish my former colleagues well and will be damn to let you continue to ignore facts. Funny how you yet again ignored a fact in a simple thread and try to turn it into something completely different.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:00 PM
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Well, this didn't take long to derail... Keep the thread on track and stop the 'my company is better than yours' stuff.
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Old 02-20-2014, 05:36 AM
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Well, this didn't take long to derail... Keep the thread on track and stop the 'my company is better than yours' stuff.
Envoy pilot here

3 days off from jan + 4 days off at the beginning of this month = 7 days straight without working.

75 hr line. 4 day trips commutable both ways with 3 days off after every sequence. Bidding around 80% of the lines in MIA.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:01 AM
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7 Month FO LXJT
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Living in base

March 2nd start
3 off

4 on

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5 on

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Old 02-20-2014, 07:08 PM
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Whiskey FO. 40% in base.

We bid hard lines at this joint... I've worked Monday-Thursday without any disruption in that pattern for the last 5 months. The past couple months that have involved "carry-in" days at beginning of month, the company hasn't put anything on my schedule. I do not bid differently for holidays, etc. I just like consistency. I bid late starts, live in base. At start of month, my lines are usually 92-95 hours of block, ends up being around 87ish hours of block and 100-105 hours of credit.
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Old 02-20-2014, 07:46 PM
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It would be helpful if everyone could also post any contractual items like TAFB/DUTY rigs, contractual duty time limits etc.

QX has has seen very few changes in our schedules but we have 4/day TAFB and 1/2 duty rigs, we also have a contractual 14 hour duty limit and 9 hour minimum scheduled rest. The worst thing we see is an increase in circadian swaps; we have more trips that finish the 1st day at midnight and then have very early shows on the third. The circadian swaps are the worst effect I have noticed.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
Envoy pilot here

3 days off from jan + 4 days off at the beginning of this month = 7 days straight without working.

75 hr line. 4 day trips commutable both ways with 3 days off after every sequence. Bidding around 80% of the lines in MIA.
Actually you are envoy in april 2014. For now you are just eagle..
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lowflying View Post
It would be helpful if everyone could also post any contractual items like TAFB/DUTY rigs, contractual duty time limits etc.

QX has has seen very few changes in our schedules but we have 4/day TAFB and 1/2 duty rigs, we also have a contractual 14 hour duty limit and 9 hour minimum scheduled rest. The worst thing we see is an increase in circadian swaps; we have more trips that finish the 1st day at midnight and then have very early shows on the third. The circadian swaps are the worst effect I have noticed.
That's different, at Mesa our circadian flip flops have disappeared. But Mesa had a ton of scheduled reduced rest flip flops before 117.
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by skillett View Post
That's different, at Mesa our circadian flip flops have disappeared. But Mesa had a ton of scheduled reduced rest flip flops before 117.
Most of us would agree that part 117 will improve the our health and safety. However, my point of asking about rigs and other contract language was to see if part 117 was affecting everyone's number of days off or just those without contractual protections against un-productive trips; a thirty hour overnight with a decent TAFB rig is tolerable. 30hrs with no pay would cut into your productivity i.e. days off.

Horizon's segments average less than 90 minutes so we depend on our rigs to keep the company honest and not give us all min guarantee with min days off. Most of the other regionals have longer average stage lengths and I was wondering if you could still get high productivity without the rigs; a lot of the variations between schedules might have more to do with managements philosophy towards the crews.
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