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AlaskaBound 03-09-2014 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598621)
If you are a RAH pilot, why don't you sign on to the Town Hall calls today at either 1300 or 1600 and ask your questions there and get the facts. Of course the other option is to continue to approach this from a uneducated point of view.

You're either a RAH negotiator trying to justify your work at the negotiating table or management trying to sell this turd of a T.A.

I feel like you are the uneducated one here. You're clearly in the minority in your mind set. No one agrees with you and you can't explain the major discrepancies in the turn of this TA.

No one is asking for mainline pay. What is being asked for is a great contract that includes innovative thinking, livable pay increase, solid contract language, QOL improvements above and beyond average your peer group, etc. NO one wants a "decent" contract. What's deserved is a great contract that will raise the bar. This turd does nothing to raise the bar. It actually helps keep everything just average. There is no better time than now to get these improvements. Never has the regional group had so much leverage. It would be a shame to lose this opportunity.

SSMR13 03-09-2014 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598621)
If you are a RAH pilot, why don't you sign on to the Town Hall calls today at either 1300 or 1600 and ask your questions there and get the facts. Of course the other option is to continue to approach this from a uneducated point of view.

You mean the ones where the questions are screened? Or the ones that draw a pretty picture of this TA, and omit all the negative facts? Or the ones where you can ask follow up questions to vague BS answers? Oh wait, you can't do that cause all the questions are pre-screened.

Talk about a smoke and mirror show you guys are putting on. Shame on you for going along with this ruse.

You must be either management, or one of our lovely negotiators/soon to be management.

fastback 03-09-2014 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598580)
The TA is not average--it is at or above our peer group. What is remarkably good about the TA is just how significant the improvements in pay and workrules it contains in comparison to our current CBA. No matter how much we wish we were mainline pilots with their pay and working conditions, stop the self-dilusional rhetoric, WE ARE NOT. They fly for mainline carriers. We fly for regional carriers that are totally at the mercy of the mainline carriers. Until that paradigm shifts significantly, we will never be able to break out of the mold we are in. That shift will NEVER occur at the bargaining table--it can only occur in the halls of congress and the office of the regulators. Take this TA, and take it fast before management gets cold feet about paying us more than our peers. It is far and away the best overall agreement in our industry. I do not want to wait for 2 or three more years, not only to lose the gains imbedded in this TA during that time, but it is highly likely a subsequent TA would have less if the Eagle and XJT guys buckle. I am not comfortable letting them and ALPA control my destiny. Collectively, they created this "regional" mess in the first place.

Your grammar and spelling are impeccable. No way you're a pilot.

Geardownflaps30 03-09-2014 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598621)
If you are a RAH pilot, why don't you sign on to the Town Hall calls today at either 1300 or 1600 and ask your questions there and get the facts. Of course the other option is to continue to approach this from a uneducated point of view.

You DO understand that these conference calls are by the national airline division and their hand picked negotiations team, NOT our local union?!

NoLightOff 03-09-2014 10:24 AM

Watch it boys & girls. There's some company guys on here that have only their best interest in mind.
What's the difference between hot reserve & airport reserve?

Stanimal 03-09-2014 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by NoLightOff (Post 1598703)
Watch it boys & girls. There's some company guys on here that have only their best interest in mind.
What's the difference between hot reserve & airport reserve?

The difference between dry anal rape and the courtesy of lube.

pitchtrim 03-09-2014 10:53 AM

Is their any reason not to ask for mainline rates? You're doing the same job. Why are you worth less?

NoLightOff 03-09-2014 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 1598721)
Is their any reason not to ask for mainline rates? You're doing the same job. Why are you worth less?

Whaaat? That's crazy talk. Know your place...at the welfare office.

Paid2fly 03-09-2014 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598621)
If you are a RAH pilot, why don't you sign on to the Town Hall calls today at either 1300 or 1600 and ask your questions there and get the facts. Of course the other option is to continue to approach this from a uneducated point of view.







That's rich... A guy trying to "sell" this turd, and telling those who realize what a pile it is that their point of view is "uneducated".
What management position were you promised if this gets passed?

flyprdu 03-09-2014 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Corona (Post 1598551)
There is no "hot reserve." There is long call reserve, short call reserve and airport standby...

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