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Flying Ninja 03-12-2014 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by JeffA (Post 1600332)
I just emailed this guy and asked for a source to his information that salaries will double in 5 years.

I hate it when flight schools feed unfathomable BS to get people through the door who have no idea what they're getting themselves into.

Have received a reply from these lying bastards yet? I'd love to see what pile of dung they spew out.

SpeedyVagabond 03-12-2014 09:25 AM

What a silly thread and ridiculous claim. Besides, as evidenced by our good friends at PSA, the law of supply and demand doesn't apply to pilots. Evidently we're rather dumb.:rolleyes:

Sr. Barco 03-12-2014 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1599839)
I see the current regional model collapsing. The affiliated regional will be liquidated and the assets transferred to the major partner/owner. This will result in MUCH more hiring at mainline than projected just for retirements. So the average wage WILL go up. Instead of 50% of the lift nationwide being done on a "C" scale, most all of it above a CR700 type will be at mainline at mainline wages. I think the first hint of this happening will come later this year/early next at DAL in our C2015 negotiations. We currently have CR900/Emb195 rates but they are too high. Look for those to be lowered and CR700 rates added.

All the Regional guys have to do to keep the snowball rolling is VOTE NO!!!

I too believe the regional airline model will collapse. Their demise will be hastened by strong and consistent no votes by all regional airline pilots. I've said in other posts there is absolutely no reason to take concessions right now. No one is entering the profession while everyone is leaving. There were just 805 retirements last year and 18,000 more scheduled in the next ten years. How are they possibly going to replace you at a moment's notice? Just let this play out. At some point DAL, UAL, AA et al. will not tolerate a completely unreliable regional feed and address the situation accordingly.

JeffA 03-12-2014 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Ninja (Post 1600676)
Have received a reply from these lying bastards yet? I'd love to see what pile of dung they spew out.

Not a peep back. I don't expect one.

Flying Ninja 03-12-2014 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by JeffA (Post 1600827)
Not a peep back. I don't expect one.

LOL! Maybe we should call and ask some hard questions directly. :D

BackintheLPA 03-13-2014 07:27 AM

Airlines are obviously interested in perpetuating the pilot shortage myth because it will prove useful when the time comes. It's as simple as marching an army of k-street lobbyist with " campaign contributions" up to capital hill to grease the skids for loose work visa programs and the passage of MPL. All because these are jobs Americans simply won't do and Jim bob is entitled to a cheap fare/lol.

Never under estimate management's ability to collude with the district of criminals.

Chris99 03-13-2014 06:50 PM

I left a respectable comment on the original linked article disagreeing with his assertion, but it got moderated and deleted. To me that means this guy is using hyperbole in an attempt to attract more (gullible) people to fill seats and line his pockets. Despicable!

TheFly 03-13-2014 08:18 PM

Wishful thinking...

CRJ100 03-14-2014 11:34 AM

I do not think this is wishful thinking.

I have an idea to purchase ExpressJet and restructure it into a 100% pro-rate carrier. I have drafted a proposed CRJ/ERJ payscale that would allow the carrier to pull pilots from other regionals:

CRJ/ERJ FO:
Yr 1: $50
Yr 2: $55
Yr 3: $60
Yr 4: $65
Yr 5+: $70

CRJ/ERJ CA:
Yr 1: $79
Yr 2: $82
Yr 3: $85
Yr 4: $88
Yr 5: $91
Yr 6: $94
Yr 7: $97
Yr 8: $100
Yr 9: $103
Yr 10: $106
Yr 11: $109
Yr 12: $112
Yr 13: $115
Yr 14: $118
Yr 15: $121
Yr 16: $124
Yr 17: $127
Yr 18: $130

At this price point, EV would not be able to win CPA flying, but it would be able to profitably fly its own routes with a major code attached.


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