Regional hiring times
 

Hello-

Curious if anyone would be willing to share what kind of flight time/experience they have been getting hired with and at what regional airlines. Basically I am wondering if once you have ATP mins you are good to go or do you need more than that.

Thanks in advance.

Regional hiring times
 

You will be good to go. From what I've been reading, you will be able to interview and get a conditional job offer even before you meet ATP mins.

1500 hrs & a pulse.

Valid...even for less time

You will start hearing from airlines well before mins. I'm sitting ~1280 and already have a job offer and 2 offers to interview. From what I've heard from friends of mine, things start picking up after 1300

I talked to a new hire Air Wisconsin guy today. He said he has the ATP mins but doesn't have an ATP. I assume he will get it on his type ride during initial training.

That would be an accurate statement.

Regional hiring times
 

Several carriers are still requiring multi engine experience beyond the 50 (or 25+25 sim) required for the ATP-AMEL. SkyWest and Compass, to name two. SkyWest will interview with straight ATP mins, but no class date til you have 100 ME. Compass also wants at least 100. Republic and Eagle want 50 ME, they aren't accepting 25+25.

So if anyone can contribute to a list of who's requiring what in the multi column, that'd be useful I think.

Carriers I know for certain that will hire with 25+25:

--Piedmont
--ExpressJet
--Cape Air

Companies doing that probably aren't the ones you want to be working for. There's a reason they're desperate.

Actually, the ones that are desperate have sign-on bonuses.

Don't be deceived. They are all desperate. Some more than others and some sweating bullets. If you are close to the mins, apply and interview. Go to wwww.aviationinterviews.com and study up. Read a book or two and get your first interview suit and tie and enjoy the ride.

What's so bad about that? Get the interview and everything out of the way so you can just hit 1500 and schedule a class right away. Everybody is hiring, I don't see the issue with expediting the process by interviewing a couple hundred hours in advance. Although receiving an email with a class date without even doing a phone interview is a bit strange...

At some point multi engine time won't even be required outside of the few hours to get the rating.

True, but for all but a few, we aren't there yet. Still worth sorting out.

I never said that it was a bad idea to interview at soon as you could. I said that companies that are offering phone interviews and giving people conditional class dates before they even meet the mins are probably not places you want to be working. These are the first places to get desperate meaning these are the places that have the worst working conditions. No one wants to go there so they offer 1,000 hour pilots conditional class dates to sucker them in.

Agreed. When they start repeatedly calling and emailing job offers it definitely raises some red flags. Sadly that strategy works on a lot of ppl I think. I have friends that went to certain airlines just bc the had COEs and it was easy.

I understand the reasoning behind wanting to find out who hires at bare minimums...but maybe those guys should be looking at the individual threads to see what kind of places they are before they either: sign a TRA, move or just spend time with generally unhappy people at the beginning of their professional career.

I may be wrong in thinking this way, but spend more time researching the companies than trolling for the restricted ATP carriers...

Just my .02

Is eagle really desperate? If they were desperate wouldn't they relax the training a little bit and try to get someone through rather than giving them a checkride in 8 sims? Maybe its an eagle thing and they don't want to change. The few pilots i know at eagle said the training was extremely tough but thorough compared to other regionals.

How? 50 multi is mandatory for insurance isn't it?

let me guess, Mesa Airlines?

Do most regionals have more than 8? When I was a new hire at a different regional we had 5 sim sessions then 6 and 7 were the checkride. I figured 5 was on the low side but somewhere between 5 and 10 was the norm.

How many hours equals to 8 sim sessions?

A sim session is generally 2 hours. Someone correct me if i am wrong.

How do you have a checkride with 2 sims? Isn't one sim the jeopardy event?

50 multi is required for the ATP...

A sim session is 4 hours. Typically 2 hours PF / 2 hours PM.

Talk about getting off topic. I find it funny how this thread creator wanted to know what kind of time people are getting hired with and not a single person has actually answered it. Page 3

Good info!

Does anyone know what Air Wisconsin, PSA, or Endeavor interview/hire with?

What he's asking is where he can apply and get an offer without having 1500 hours.

First look at the places offering sign on bonuses with 1 to 2 year leashes costing about what first year pay will be. Those places want warm bodies. If you want a job working for a regional where you won't hide your wings while strolling the airport - then avoid the dangling carrot of money up front to get it in the rear.

I guess I worded my question poorly. Really what I was looking for would be something like this, I interviewed at (airline) with TT, ME, and maybe what kind of flying they are currently doing.

If you're close to mins (as listed on the company's website) and are interested in working for that company, send them a resume. Worst they'll say is "no thanks".

If the company is hard on the 50 hours or 100 hours of multi-engine time expect that it'll be a stipulation if they're nice enough to offer you an interview.

To whoever asked why airlines limit sim sessions to 8 as opposed to "train to pass" I'm sure part of it is liability. If 85% of the pilots hired can accomplish their training satisfactorily in 8 sessions the other 15% aren't the pilots "we" want working for "our" company. If the company trained those 15% of pilots with additional sessions, some lawyer would likely say "isn't it true that this pilot wasn't ready in the average amount of sim sessions?" and then "Do you hire substandard pilots knowingly?" followed by "That's why [your company here] is liable for $XX Million in damages"

Got an invite to interview with PSA ~1275, Endeavor told me to keep building time and they'd speak to me in the future. No app in with AWAC yet.

For what it's worth I have just shy of 200 ME, and will qualify for an unrestricted at 1500 with over 500 XC if that even matters. No ATP written yet.

Are you doing the on site interview in Ft. Lauderdale?

No I am not in that area. Got invited to come to CLT.

Ok, best of luck to you.

All of above interviewing and hiring with less than 1500 TT and don't need more than 50 ME.

In addition to the liability, the simulator is a very valuable asset. The company can't afford to be using it for remedial training on a regular basis. Those resources used to "train to pass" could be diverted to people the company is pretty sure can complete the training program as intended. It results in a higher throughput in the training department and a better ROI.

True statement. Sims costs about $300-$600/hour. 8 sim sessions + any LOFT's equal about 36 hours - half PF/half PM. This all equates to approx. $18,000. That's a lot of money for a regional to throw at someone that might not get through training...