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MikeB525 12-22-2006 09:12 AM

SkyWest Question
 
Quick question on SkyWest

When I first found this forum I found people saying pretty much only good things about SkyWest. Now suddenly they seem to be getting alot of hatred.

They just got a pay raise with a differential for the bigger planes and I believe their workrules are considered among the best.

Why is there so much sudden hate toward SkyWest?

Slaphappy 12-22-2006 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by MikeB525 (Post 94836)
Quick question on SkyWest

When I first found this forum I found people saying pretty much only good things about SkyWest. Now suddenly they seem to be getting alot of hatred.

They just got a pay raise with a differential for the bigger planes and I believe their workrules are considered among the best.

Why is there so much sudden hate toward SkyWest?

its jeliousy they hate that we make more in the end and still get all the RFPs and growth and we are not union.

bla bla bla 12-22-2006 09:24 AM

Nope, its guys like slaphappy that give skyw a bad name. They love to gloat about growth at others expense, are to selfish to vote in a union, and have no industry unity.

MikeB525 12-22-2006 09:25 AM

so this whole things relates back to SkyWest being non-union?

BYUFlyr 12-22-2006 11:23 AM

I'm just a CFI, so I know nothing about the industry aside from what I read here and in other forums. So let me see if I get this straight... Skywest + no union = sucky company; airline with union = good airline. Therefore: Mesa, American Eagle, Expressjet (all unionized) are good. Skywest (no union) is bad.

Is this how it works? I mean from what I read, the quality of life for pilots and the company's future will improve as soon as ALPA comes on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Rama 12-22-2006 11:29 AM

They didn't get a raise-just a lesser pay loss.

DMEarc 12-22-2006 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by BYUFlyr (Post 94864)
I'm just a CFI, so I know nothing about the industry aside from what I read here and in other forums. So let me see if I get this straight... Skywest + no union = sucky company; airline with union = good airline. Therefore: Mesa, American Eagle, Expressjet (all unionized) are good. Skywest (no union) is bad.

Is this how it works? I mean from what I read, the quality of life for pilots and the company's future will improve as soon as ALPA comes on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

No...SkyWest is a good company and their pilots are great. The fact of the matter is, without a union, management can do WHATEVER they want to them. That means fly a 90 seat airplane at 50 seat rates (or very close to it)

Their first year pay is worse than Colgan! Their second year pay is average where Colgans is still terrible.

SkyWest pilots need ALPA to protect them. I'm not saying it will happen but it can- If SkyWest management wanted to, they could easily turn that airline into Mesa Jr.

They constantly win RFPs...which is great, but better companies like Air Wiskey are left in the crapper because they refuse to fly for such shytty rates.

MikeB525 12-22-2006 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 94870)
They constantly win RFPs...which is great, but better companies like Air Wiskey are left in the crapper because they refuse to fly for such shytty rates.

I juxtaposed those two. SkyWest and Air Wisconsin have virtually identical 50 seat pay rates.

DMEarc 12-22-2006 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by MikeB525 (Post 94890)
I juxtaposed those two. SkyWest and Air Wisconsin have virtually identical 50 seat pay rates.

I'm saying that SKYW will operate a 90 seater for 50 seat rates as where Air Wisconsin will not.

rickair7777 12-22-2006 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by DMEarc (Post 94891)
I'm saying that SKYW will operate a 90 seater for 50 seat rates as where Air Wisconsin will not.


The midwest thing is 50 seaters.


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