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12-28-2006, 06:48 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Historically, turbo-prop PIC at a commuter airline was golden for getting a major job. This is still very much the case at some airlines (SWA and CAL come to mind), but the majors are hiring you to fly jets, often with glass cockpits, and they are starting to realize that they can achieve a higher pass rate in initial training with glass-experienced pilots. This is a new development because ten years ago we didn't have hords of RJ's, so prop-pilots where the only game in town.
Not to annoy prop-pilots here, but transition from prop to jet is pretty busy the first time around. I am sure it would be the same going the other way on the rare occasions that it happens, but the majors fly jets so they are somewhat more interested in that experience.
I would consider glass/jet to be resume padders, get the turbine PIC first then worry about glass/jet. If you know someone, it won't matter but if you are applying off the street you need every edge you can get. JetBlue actually requires jet time, if you wanted to work there for some reason.
Not to annoy prop-pilots here, but transition from prop to jet is pretty busy the first time around. I am sure it would be the same going the other way on the rare occasions that it happens, but the majors fly jets so they are somewhat more interested in that experience.
I would consider glass/jet to be resume padders, get the turbine PIC first then worry about glass/jet. If you know someone, it won't matter but if you are applying off the street you need every edge you can get. JetBlue actually requires jet time, if you wanted to work there for some reason.
If you've ever flown a 121 prop, you would know that the cockpit is MUCH busier than that of a jet. The only thing a prop driver has to learn in the transition is programing the FMS, which isn't that bid of a deal. The cockpit in the jet is MUCH MUCH MUCH less complicated and busy.
12-29-2006, 06:09 AM
#42
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Originally Posted by STR8NLVL
Not sure where you got that information. My friend is currently an intern at CAL and was told by the director of training that they prefer prop drivers because they have a higher pass rate.
YMMV.
12-29-2006, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
I heard the opposite from a CAL intern. Instead of upgrading in the 1900, he called his old boss over there at the CAL flight training center and asked him what he thought. He told him to go fly a jet, that was more in line with their hiring process.
YMMV.
YMMV.
12-29-2006, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fosters
So they did not PS you to training and from training (indoc & sim), and to OE and back from OE? Did you purchase your ticket/drive to training? That is what I am talking about.
IOE is done wherever you're going to be based. STL-based pilots do IOE out of STL, and RIC-based pilots do IOE out of RIC. There were a few STL guys who had to go do IOE from RIC because of a backup, and they got the standard TSA deadhead runaround: positive space there, good luck on the way back.
02-28-2007, 10:57 AM
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I will post pinnacles once we get a new contract, which from my understanding will be soon. Management and our mec have been negotiating for the last 10 days and have ta'd several of the more difficult sections (scheduling, comp, duty). and that info is straight from our mec, not rumor.
02-28-2007, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Airsupport
I will post pinnacles once we get a new contract, which from my understanding will be soon. Management and our mec have been negotiating for the last 10 days and have ta'd several of the more difficult sections (scheduling, comp, duty). and that info is straight from our mec, not rumor.
03-01-2007, 10:24 AM
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i am stating the obvious, but absolutely fantastic post!!
thanks for taking the time to do all of that work!!
i noticed someone said Per Diem is TAX FREE...........is that true??????????
thanks for taking the time to do all of that work!!
i noticed someone said Per Diem is TAX FREE...........is that true??????????
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