[QUOTE=III Corps;96059]Were you trying to make a point?

Chivalry..N. he sum of the ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor, and dexterity in arms.

Nothing in the definition precludes self preservation. You might check the definition of a word before using it.. or you can just keep firing from the hip.

Anyone who says they are not concerned about their own fanny is a liar or does not belong in a cockpit.

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Need I say more....

[quote=HotMamaPilot;96063]Yes, because we want to know what you have to say!

[QUOTE=bobloblaw;96078]I knew that persistence would win me a fan club. :D

You could answer the question.. what is your major concern when flying... altruism, as you implied, or self preservation and safety?

getting the revenue from point a to point b. I really don't know any captains who sit there and worry about crashing like you do. You fly the plane and if summin happens, well that's what checklists are for. who are you anyway?

I find this statement to be written by the pilots laywer. Unfortunately it did not take off, he took off along with the other crew member. Again if this were a Mesa a crew you people would of been all up in the face of Mesa about how the training sucks and how the 250 hour wonders ruin this industry. Not to turn this into a Mesa is great column they are not but I thought it was an interesting note that I had made originally and no one had anything crafty to say about it.

It was tragic and horrible and an accident. Some posted about how everyone gets named in a suit and they are right. You can't get anything from an empty wallet. Best he can do is protect his assets and let the big companys fight it out. When I heard he survived I had to think pretty hard about whether I would of wanted too.

the fact that it was pilot error isn't being debated I think... it's the tone towards this unfortunate accident, and the attempt to pin it on RJ pilots that is not fiar. Delta took off with no flaps on a 727 back in the early 80s I believe.. does that make Delta pilots inferior? Hardly..

Your comment about "perfection" is good, as whether it is achieved or not is based on the standards.

For me, "perfection" items I strive for are pushing from Marshall on time, planning and flying enroute descents to maximize the efficiency of the airplane and having an un-noticeable landing at the point I aim for, along with flying the flight to applicable standards. A pilot flies to standards. A professional pilot exceeds standards.

That said, even the loosest definition would include getting your passengers from point A to point B alive. They failed to do that. They should be held accountable, as that is an unacceptable error. Whether they were given bum tools or not, countless other aircraft accomplished that assignment from that airport and didn't lose a life.

Whether they did/did not use CRM, checklists, other tools/techniques that are in place to reduce errors or were set up to fail by management or the FAA, their error killed their passengers. They are not paid to make errors, and they are paid to make the decision not to go if the risk to success becomes too high. If the airfield was so jacked up they couldn't find the right runway, they should have not taxied until it was fixed.

Since you edited the spelling in your post, that is a control measure used to achieve "perfection". If, on re-reading, you realized your post was junk, you would not have submitted it. That is a risk control.

Pilot pay: comment about the 73 pay noted...then why the difference between 50 - 70 - 90 seat RJ's??

Didn't the FO train with GIA?

-LAFF

Has a CVR transcript been compiled and released yet?