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comair8904 04-16-2014 02:06 PM
..oh, I thought you wee talking about obamacare..

BenS 04-16-2014 02:20 PM
My thoughts on stop the whipsaw is this. The company represents the companies interests. The unions represent the unions interests (though similar, not to be confused with pilots interests). I think it would be great for regional airline pilots to have an association that reaches across company and union lines to represent the interests of all regional pilots. Regional airlines do this with RAA, for example. Regardless of "generation" or dislike of others "entitlement", a group that increases the standard of living for all regional pilots is a good thing.

Captain Tony 04-16-2014 03:57 PM
Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 1624058)
Back then the commuters like ASA, Eagle, etc was PFT. Is that when you were hired at ASA? How could there be a shortage when people were paying to go to work? I
No, i worked at GLA then went to ASA right after the PFT ended.

450knotOffice 04-16-2014 05:57 PM
AE was never PFT, btw.

JamesNoBrakes 04-16-2014 07:02 PM
Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1623919)
When I was in flight school in the mid 90s, DAL and UAL pilots were topping out in the high $280Ks (almost $350K in today's dollars), and a pilot shortage was eminent. The plan then was spend a year or two at a "commuter" like ASA, Mesa, or Great Lakes, then make it to the big time. Sound familiar? The "promise" has always been assumed, but not since the 1960s when TWA and PAA were hiring engineers and copilots with wet commercials has it actually existed.
This, but everyone expects a reasonable variance. What blows my mind is pilots quitting regionals to work for other/better regionals. That is absolutely crazy and we've become desensitized to it.

Paid2fly 04-16-2014 07:07 PM
Originally Posted by dc10guy (Post 1624058)
Back then the commuters like ASA, Eagle, etc was PFT. Is that when you were hired at ASA? How could there be a shortage when people were paying to go to work? I





SkyWest was never PFT.

frmrdashtrash 04-17-2014 05:22 AM
Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes (Post 1624493)
This, but everyone expects a reasonable variance. What blows my mind is pilots quitting regionals to work for other/better regionals. That is absolutely crazy and we've become desensitized to it.
Very true. We've all seen guys bail from one to go to another, then something happen at their previous regional that would have made them senior enough to hold captain. Some folks never learn....

The only time you bail is if the company is facing a shutdown. Otherwise you ride it out.


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