Airhead250

Hey Team,

I am a charter jet captain in the USA, I was every frustrated with not being able to jumpseat properly like our 121 counterparts so I did something about it.

We have created a new universal jumpseat software that caters to all operators including 135.

You can find us on Facebook and instagram under JumpHub.

Talk to your operator about registering!

LoneStar32

Didn't know there was a JS agreement with Part 135 companies. How would we even do that?

67Creek

What's in it for us? You get to take my jumpseat on a carrier that can take you anywhere in the world, on a schedule, with connections..

And I get to, maybe, go to Newark on your airplane if it's an empty leg?

And what's this bull**** about 'maximizing potential revenue' that I see on your website? Jumpseating isn't for companies to use to their economic advantage. If someone shows up to jumpseat and I find out they're doing it for business purposes, they're not only no longer welcome on my airplane, my jumpseat committee will know about it by the close of business and I'll do whatever I can to end any reciprocal agreement.

No thanks. If you want to jumpseat on the airlines, become an airline pilot.

LoneStar32

Agreed. In the Part 121 world using the jumpseat as a deadheader is looked down upon. It is reserved for commuters and leisure travel.

rickair7777

Some airlines do it, with a few 135 operators.

I've had 135 JSers at the regionals. One of them actually got to ride. I kicked the rest of them off...
- One tried to talk his way into the cockpit JS despite having a valid JS agreement with no CASS.
- One was actually good for the cockpit with CASS, but proceeded to tell me while chit-chatting that his company told him to JS to get into psition to meet a plane. Off he went.
- One had talked the gate into letting him down for a cabin seat despite having no recip JS agreement with my regional.

But as others pointed out, it's a one-way street. I actually tried to JS on a 135 plane once. It was an empty repo leg, we had a recip agreement... and the pilot was my buddy! We were going to fly from our hometown to his base and then drive back home together. Basically an airplane ride. Company ops said no-go because their insurance didn't cover it.

My biggest heartburn though is 135 pilots using 121 JS's to repo on company business... so they can better compete for our premium passengers.

If you 135 people want 121 JS access, the best thing you can do do is draw a hard line about JSing on COBUS... if you don't police yourselves (and tell your bosses to eff off), we will do it for you, which usually means blanket denials. I'm at a point where you'd better look like you're going backpacking for a few weeks in Denali, cuz if I even think you might be going to work the answer's no.

I'm willing to let you guys ride for personal travel, even with very little hope of ever enjoying a recip ride just because we're all professional pilots. But it would help if you made it at least practical for the rare 121 guy who wants a ride to get one.

rickair7777

They are not even deadheaders... their employer did not buy them a ticket, just told them to use and abuse the 121 JS privilege to save the company a few bucks.

Swakid8

This will not end well lol.

ElCaribe

The same argument could be applied to KCM.

captive apple

On what grounds?

senecacaptain

interesting 5 year old thread revival