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ghilis101 12-27-2006 02:49 PM

Skywest Pilots please be nicer to gate agents and rampers
 
i just spoke with a couple girls in chicago who had some very nasty things to say about skywest pilots. i know it might be a very tiny few who act a certain way, and maybe its still some leftover hostility in ORD... but im told that SKW pilots are especially rude or arrogant :eek:

freezingflyboy 12-27-2006 02:52 PM

An arrogant SkyWest pilot?! Never heard of such a thing!:D

*wipes the sarcasm off the keyboard*

Velocipede 12-27-2006 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 96354)
An arrogant SkyWest pilot?!

Is that an oxymoron?

bender 12-27-2006 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by freezingflyboy (Post 96354)
An arrogant SkyWest pilot?! Never heard of such a thing!:D

*wipes the sarcasm off the keyboard*

Yeah, we just follow ExpressJet's lead. :D*sarcasm*

hatetobreakit2u 12-27-2006 03:24 PM

probably cause the airport is a cluster**** and their from the west coast and dont want to deal with snow

ryane946 12-27-2006 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u (Post 96369)
probably cause the airport is a cluster**** and their from the west coast and dont want to deal with snow

100% AGREED!

POPA 12-27-2006 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by hatetobreakit2u (Post 96369)
probably cause the airport is a cluster**** and their from the west coast and dont want to deal with snow

I'm from the east coast and don't want to deal with the snow!

FlyerJosh 12-27-2006 03:58 PM

It doesn't matter where you're from... ORD is always a cluster****. Especially for any of the UEX carriers that have to put up with the BS gates that mainline sticks them with.

saab2000 12-27-2006 04:08 PM

I'd be happy to go back to ORD. Best base I have had since I returned to the US. Helluva lot better than IAD in 2004/2005 and better than PHL.

I guess as a native Midwesterner I like the place.

hatetobreakit2u 12-27-2006 04:43 PM

so SKW will be delighted when i tell them id like ORD please?

FlyerJosh 12-27-2006 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 96393)
I'd be happy to go back to ORD. Best base I have had since I returned to the US. Helluva lot better than IAD in 2004/2005 and better than PHL.

I guess as a native Midwesterner I like the place.

Chicago is a great town... Flying in and out of ORD is fun (except for the weather delays/ground stops)... The crews that I flew with in and out of ORD were all great and lots of fun to work with...

It's the ground operations that suck. But then again UAL station ops at PHL were even worse...

rickair7777 12-27-2006 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by FlyerJosh (Post 96430)
Chicago is a great town... Flying in and out of ORD is fun (except for the weather delays/ground stops)... The crews that I flew with in and out of ORD were all great and lots of fun to work with...

It's the ground operations that suck. But then again UAL station ops at PHL were even worse...

"Fill-in-the-blank" at PHL s*cks @ss...

That place was an experience.

reelbigchair 12-27-2006 08:16 PM

I'm not sure you can single out SkyWest pilots, but I think it's a good idea, why not be nicer. These people can positively effect how well my day goes, it seems silly to be grumpy with them. Especially CSR's as the next day I might be trying to jumpseat on a flight they're working.

rickair7777 12-27-2006 08:39 PM

Hmmm. I am a SKW pilot now, and I must admit that there is slightly more pilot attitude here than at other places.

ghilis101 12-28-2006 05:08 AM

why is it like that?

rickair7777 12-28-2006 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 96554)
why is it like that?


I don't know. Maybe because it's historically been hard to get on with just CFI time, so the folks that came straight from the flight school think they're special?

Velocipede 12-28-2006 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by ghilis101 (Post 96554)
why is it like that?

Two reasons, probably.

1. SKW pays more than other regionals.
2. Non-Union guys tend to think they can "do it all themselves."

FlyboyPhil 12-28-2006 04:57 PM

Another reason for the shortness with the rampers perhaps.. In our other hubs and many of our outstations we are mainly handled by Skywest personel. Anyone who has been with Skywest for more than a few weeks is cross-trained on all the ramp jobs. In Chicago it is very frustrating to see the baggage crew leaning up against the equipment while you sit in the alley waiting to be marshalled in for 10 minutes.... or to have them finish up loading the bags and walk off while you wait 10 minutes for the pushcrew... the frustration level can really mount if you don't get yourself into a Chicago state of mind.. I commuted out there for a year and realized that for the most part you do your part and request (and re-request ;) ) politely that they do theirs. It is almost never productive to get excited about something and start pushing them. Many of our crews only get to ORD occasionaly and don't leave their expectations of an efficiently run operation behind. The "system" out there has been broken for some time and most likely will be. Some great folks working and busting their butts on the ramp out there.

Mookie 12-28-2006 05:06 PM

The key to getting anything done is to have the captain go to the gate, and tell the agent directly what they want. i always laughed when people are onthe ops frequency..."yeah...ops, this is fltxxxx, still waiting for commo." I used to just go and asked for it personally and NEVER once had a problem getting what I wanted in a timely manner. People working at ORD tend to feel a bit persecuted, so if you are even the least bit gracious, their midwestern sensiblity usually kicks in to 'get er done." it doesn't hurt that my dad is from there, so I understand the mentallity somewhat.

Mookie


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