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Waste at XJT
I'd like to hear others' stories of waste being observed on the line at XJT. I think it would be intersting to see what others have seen.
For example, last week. Our deadhead flight was about 3 hours late. We were to operate another turn after, which would have ran about a hour late. So in their wisdom, they pulled us off the turn, replaced it with a reserve crew they had to deadhead in from ATL, while we sat in DTW and did nothing for almost 4 hours instead of operating that turn. Makes no sense! Why not take the hour delay and not waste 2 crews plus the cost to deadhead!? Makes my head spin |
I think that happens at a lot of carriers lol
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Originally Posted by Dejavu
(Post 1661140)
I think that happens at a lot of carriers lol
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I don't know if you have it on the L-ASA side, but a few months ago we on the L-XJT side started a new volunteer union group specifically to report and monitor poor operations decisions or events as you described. How many airlines have operations that go so sideways so regularly that the pilots feel it is in their own best interest to dedicate part of their union manpower to monitor just how bad it goes? :(
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Originally Posted by PeezDog
(Post 1661136)
I'd like to hear others' stories of waste being observed on the line at XJT. I think it would be intersting to see what others have seen.
For example, last week. Our deadhead flight was about 3 hours late. We were to operate another turn after, which would have ran about a hour late. So in their wisdom, they pulled us off the turn, replaced it with a reserve crew they had to deadhead in from ATL, while we sat in DTW and did nothing for almost 4 hours instead of operating that turn. Makes no sense! Why not take the hour delay and not waste 2 crews plus the cost to deadhead!? Makes my head spin I'm going to be honest. Assuming they judged staffing to be sufficient this sounds like a logical decision in the best interest of the customers. If they can keep those flights (and possibly additional later ones) on time, shouldn't they try to do so? Our performance numbers need all the help they can get. Unless over guarantee the reserve crew is little to no additional cost. |
Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
(Post 1661151)
I don't know if you have it on the L-ASA side, but a few months ago we on the L-XJT side started a new volunteer union group specifically to report and monitor poor operations decisions or events as you described. How many airlines have operations that go so sideways so regularly that the pilots feel it is in their own best interest to dedicate part of their union manpower to monitor just how bad it goes? :(
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Who cares??? Really. Mesa and Skywest have all the orders. The place is toast. Done. Finished. End of Story.
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Oh god, as a person who has bid reserve (even when able to hold a hard line) for 3 years at Eagle, I've seen some of the worst and most useless utilization of pilots before.
My personal favorite: I am called to do a ORD-ROC turn. No biggie. Show up, do my stuff, pax are boarding, near the end another FO pops his head up and says he is the original FO - his flight got in earlier and he wanted to pick up the rest of his flying. But CS would not put him on the outbound leg, just the return. So he was going to dead-head there while I flew, and he was going to fly back while I dead-headed. We called CS and said why not put him on both legs "We don't want to take a delay". Best part? Both legs were oversold and they had to buy passengers off at $500/pop. When the system gets screwed up due to wx, they have so many guys deadheading around that they run out of pilots quicker because so many are needlessly deadheading around. |
Originally Posted by Redbird611
(Post 1661206)
I'm going to be honest. Assuming they judged staffing to be sufficient this sounds like a logical decision in the best interest of the customers. If they can keep those flights (and possibly additional later ones) on time, shouldn't they try to do so? Our performance numbers need all the help they can get. Unless over guarantee the reserve crew is little to no additional cost.
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
(Post 1661220)
Who cares??? Really. Mesa and Skywest have all the orders. The place is toast. Done. Finished. End of Story.
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