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DukeSilverTrio 06-21-2014 02:32 AM

Flight Benefits at your Regional?
 
Looking for insight into travel benefits with your regional carriers. Transitioning from 135 to 121 at the end of the year and big factor is travel bennies as a feeble attempt to offset the QOL issues. I welcome any insight or subsequent flaming. Usually some diamonds in the rough. Thanks in advance.

gold 06-21-2014 03:29 AM

You will have higher priority if you work for a wholly-owned.

DukeSilverTrio 06-21-2014 03:45 AM

Gold, I saw a previous thread about Endeavor where it appeared they had inferior DAL benefits to SKW. Any truth to it?

OnCenterline 06-21-2014 03:51 AM

Duke, I agree (based on my experience) that working for a wholly owned will get you better travel benefits, but do NOT pick a regional based on that particular topic. You will have inferior benefits to the mainline employees, and besides, you have the jumpseat.

Of all the reasons to choose a particular regional, pass benefits is NOT one of them!

TheBlueBaron 06-21-2014 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by OnCenterline (Post 1669045)
Duke, I agree (based on my experience) that working for a wholly owned will get you better travel benefits, but do NOT pick a regional based on that particular topic. You will have inferior benefits to the mainline employees, and besides, you have the jumpseat.

Of all the reasons to choose a particular regional, pass benefits is NOT one of them!

And just to add, these benefits are renegotiated on a regular basis. So what you have today may be gone tomorrow. At LASA, we went from free travel on DL to $50 to $211 for a family of 4 (per year) in just a few years time. And our priority went from S3 to S3C overnight. So we are just barely above a buddy pass.

Captain Tony 06-21-2014 05:21 AM

It's so useless it shouldn't even be called a benefit. In fact they call it a "privilege" now. Basically you won't get a seat until after every mainline newhire, gets on, every mainline retiree, all the mainline retirees kids, then pilots and families of the latest sellout wholly owned get on. Not to mention that the latest revenue management gurus are overbooking everything and achieving 99% load factors. So basically you're not getting on.

Moonwolf 06-21-2014 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by DukeSilverTrio (Post 1669030)
Looking for insight into travel benefits with your regional carriers. Transitioning from 135 to 121 at the end of the year and big factor is travel bennies as a feeble attempt to offset the QOL issues. I welcome any insight or subsequent flaming. Usually some diamonds in the rough. Thanks in advance.

Well, using the Cass system you can jump seat on delta internationally, if you work for any regional.

Domestic is straight jump seat, same all around. Obviously higher priority for own a/c, wholly owned then other airline.

I work at air wisconsin. We get the same zed fare benefits as any usairways employee. So internationally is the same as working for psa/pdt or airways.

Shiner 06-21-2014 06:07 AM

Actually Envoy employees ride on the same level as AA employees on all Envoy and AA flights. Priority is also based on time of check in, so a new hire Envoy employee (and their spouse) could be ahead of the most senior AA employee if they checked in first.

They recently got ride of all fees for domestic flights. Jumpseat is still seniority based of course, and the policy is subject to change with the merger. But overall, Envoy has great benefits.


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DukeSilverTrio 06-21-2014 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by OnCenterline (Post 1669045)
Duke, I agree (based on my experience) that working for a wholly owned will get you better travel benefits, but do NOT pick a regional based on that particular topic. You will have inferior benefits to the mainline employees, and besides, you have the jumpseat.

Of all the reasons to choose a particular regional, pass benefits is NOT one of them!

Thanks Centerline, I appreciate the warning. I'm looking for strictly for in base QoL, not interested in quick upgrade or commuting.

DukeSilverTrio 06-21-2014 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Moonwolf (Post 1669082)
Well, using the Cass system you can jump seat on delta internationally, if you work for any regional.

Domestic is straight jump seat, same all around. Obviously higher priority for own a/c, wholly owned then other airline.

I work at air wisconsin. We get the same zed fare benefits as any usairways employee. So internationally is the same as working for psa/pdt or airways.

Thanks moonwolf, Awac is at the top of my list with hopes of a Philly base. So JS is the way to go domestic? As opposed to try trying non rev? Pros/cons for going international in regards to USair/awac vs another carrier through Cass. Apologies for the naive questions.


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